Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hannah Schroeter wrote: Hi! On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:04:01PM +0100, David Vasek wrote: [...] Perhaps. In case of firewire it depends on proper design of a connected device too, but I meant stability of your machine/OS. A device connected over firewire can do anything

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:04:01PM +0100, David Vasek wrote: >[...] >Perhaps. In case of firewire it depends on proper design of a connected >device too, but I meant stability of your machine/OS. A device connected >over firewire can do anything it wants with your machine, even crash it >u

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:44:29PM +0200, Lars Noodin wrote: >As far as stability goes, I find the USB connections somewhat unreliable. For me it just works (external USB2 hard disk). Kind regards, Hannah.

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Lars Noodén
Rod Whitworth wrote: > And you are aware of how insecure firewire is, I hope? Yeah, somewhat. > With physical access admittedly Pretty much anything is possible with physical access and some time. > ... but it does DMA transfers without talking to the OS etc. It appears that could be turned

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lars Noodin wrote: > David Vasek wrote: >> 1) Firewire controller in your machine is a realiable path to have it >> cracked/crashed at any time (on most of the platforms). > > Sources please, regarding cracking. With firewire OHCI controller you have you physical RAM open. Th

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Pierre Riteau
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Lars Noodin wrote: > David Vasek wrote: >> What would be firewire good for? > > Data transfer such as for full backups or cloning or audio/video. > Haven't tested it yet on OpenBSD, I still have USB-only / ethernet-base > storage for those systems. Subjectively,

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Lars Noodén
David Vasek wrote: > 1) Firewire controller in your machine is a realiable path to have it > cracked/crashed at any time (on most of the platforms). Sources please, regarding cracking. As far as stability goes, I find the USB connections somewhat unreliable. > 2) Firewire is not supported on Ope

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:26:05 +0200, Lars Nood+*n wrote: >David Vasek wrote: >> What would be firewire good for? > >Data transfer such as for full backups or cloning or audio/video. >Haven't tested it yet on OpenBSD, I still have USB-only / ethernet-base >storage for those systems. Subjectively, I

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Lars Noodin wrote: > David Vasek wrote: >> What would be firewire good for? > > Data transfer such as for full backups or cloning or audio/video. > Haven't tested it yet on OpenBSD, I still have USB-only / ethernet-base > storage for those systems. Subjectively, I find FW to

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread Lars Noodén
David Vasek wrote: > What would be firewire good for? Data transfer such as for full backups or cloning or audio/video. Haven't tested it yet on OpenBSD, I still have USB-only / ethernet-base storage for those systems. Subjectively, I find FW to be much faster than USB2 on my hardware using OS X

Re: Inexpensive, low power, "wall wart" computer

2009-02-25 Thread David Vasek
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Dieter wrote: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html This looks promising: a $100 ($50 in volume) 5 Watt computer. 1.2GHz CPU, 512MB each of RAM and Flash Marvell 88F6281 "Kirkwood" SoC gigabit Ethernet and USB 2.0 ports Looks like the SoC also has a 2nd Ethernet p