Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-15 Thread lists
Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:34:43 +0200 Mike Burns > On 2016-04-13 15.31.36 +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:37:53AM +, Mike Burns wrote: > > > I hooked some shell scripts up with zenity to make a wifi GUI. > > > > > Interesting. Care to share the code somewhere? Mayb

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-14 Thread gsowww
A GUI reduces the learning curve needed, however would not the traditional *nix command line card index updated to the modern desktop do the job just as well.

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-14 Thread Mariano Baragiola
On 04/14/16 11:50, Chris Bennett wrote: Personally, I hate GUI crap. But there are people who actually NEED it. He is as firmly dedicated to using OpenBSD as I am. And this is why my 62-year-old mother has Debian installed on her laptop instead of OpenBSD. She travels a lot, too. And I am not

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-14 Thread Chris Bennett
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 07:20:24PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > Maybe it could evolve into a port/package? > > So, what is the benefit of typing a text in a text box GUI rather than > a terminal? > Again, what is the benefit of displaying a list of wifi networks with > funny beam sign (which te

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Some people like different UIs than other people. Seems like a strange > thing to be upset about. Some people like to shoot themselves in the foot. I am not upset about it, but I don't like to hear screams and ambulance sirens. :-)

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Mike Burns
On 2016-04-13 19.20.24 +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > So, what is the benefit of typing a text in a text box GUI rather than > a terminal? > Again, what is the benefit of displaying a list of wifi networks with > funny beam sign (which tell you nothing, bytheway) rather that read a > dBm result from

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Mike Burns
On 2016-04-13 15.31.36 +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:37:53AM +, Mike Burns wrote: > > I hooked some shell scripts up with zenity to make a wifi GUI. > > > Interesting. Care to share the code somewhere? Maybe it could evolve > into a port/package? I'll share the c

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Maybe it could evolve into a port/package? So, what is the benefit of typing a text in a text box GUI rather than a terminal? Again, what is the benefit of displaying a list of wifi networks with funny beam sign (which tell you nothing, bytheway) rather that read a dBm result from scan option in

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:37:53AM +, Mike Burns wrote: > On 2016-04-13 10.42.28 +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:34:16PM -0400, Implausibility wrote: > > Various attempts on creating "generic" wifi network connection manager > > scripts have been made. None with a

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Implausibility
Thanks to everyone for their comments! I'm going to put a fresh install of OpenBSD 5.9 on my laptop, and I'll try all of your recommendations. Take care. > On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:37 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On 2016-04-13 10.42.28 +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:34:1

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread lists
Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:40:52 -0400 Michael McConville > Implausibility wrote: > > I know how to install things via the ports, but traversing the > > directory structure to find useful packages is painful. If there's a > > more friendly way to search for and discover new/interesting ports > > package

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Mike Burns
On 2016-04-13 10.42.28 +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:34:16PM -0400, Implausibility wrote: > Various attempts on creating "generic" wifi network connection manager > scripts have been made. None with a true GUI AFAIK. I hooked some shell scripts up with zenity to make

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Craig Skinner
Hi there, On 2016-04-12 Tue 20:34 PM |, Implausibility wrote: > > I don't need a lot, I spend most of my time at a shell prompt, but I'm > thinking I need a better window manager, possibly Firefox (or a recommended > lightweight alternative) and any invaluable X-based utilities. > dillo is a us

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-13 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:34:16PM -0400, Implausibility wrote: > Hi. > > I have a few old ThinkPads here, and I'd like to explore getting OpenBSD > running as a lightweight desktop computer. > > I don't need a lot, I spend most of my time at a shell prompt, but I'm > thinking I need a better win

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:24:15PM -0500, frederick w. soucy wrote: > It could be that your wifi card needs firmware that isn`t installed. > If you can connect via ethernet try to run fw_update. You may need to use wired network to get the firmware. When I install onto a usb flash drive, I use fw

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:34:16PM -0400, Implausibility wrote: > Hi. > > I have a few old ThinkPads here, and I'd like to explore getting OpenBSD > running as a lightweight desktop computer. > > I don't need a lot, I spend most of my time at a shell prompt, but I'm > thinking I need a better win

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-12 Thread frederick w. soucy
On 2016.04.12, Implausibility wrote: > Hi. > > I have a few old ThinkPads here, and I'd like to explore getting OpenBSD > running as a lightweight desktop computer. > > I don't need a lot, I spend most of my time at a shell prompt, but I'm > thinking I need a better window manager, possibly Firef

Re: Getting started with an OpenBSD Desktop...

2016-04-12 Thread Michael McConville
Implausibility wrote: > I know how to install things via the ports, but traversing the > directory structure to find useful packages is painful. If there's a > more friendly way to search for and discover new/interesting ports > packages, I'd appreciate a link. 'pkg_info -Q $YOUR_QUERY' will show