Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-30 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:57:24 +0200 "Martin Schrvder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/26 Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > > > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > > > As the article points out, better late

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Smith
Andre van Zyl wrote: On the contrary, Mark, right now I personally have a higher regard for Thilo, who actually posted an opinion. Dear Andre, We are not at a popularity contest so it's not about having a "higher regard" for someone, but about technical facts ( --> eepc, documentation). No

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-27 Thread Andre van Zyl
> Hehe, thanks for the good laugh ! > > Thilo you already look like a fool. On the contrary, Mark, right now I personally have a higher regard for Thilo, who actually posted an opinion. All you've done is posted a typical fanboi response to Theo's reply to Thilo. Who are you trying to impress?

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-27 Thread bofh
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Thilo Pfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > It was projects like OpenBSD that showed what bold faced liars they were >> for them to change their ways. It was action of the unfriendly kind >> that got stuff done. Get your facts straight.

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-27 Thread Mark Smith
Thilo Pfennig wrote: >The popularity of Linux has helped to create a >market that has better and more open documentation - and machines that >are made to work perfect with Linux (like eeepc) are more easily made to >work perfectly for OpenBSD and other free OSes. Hehe, thanks for the good laugh

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-27 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Marco Peereboom wrote: Many people see me rather as an open source dogmatist. Personally I am trying to get the big picture WITHOUT being a fanboy of ANY OS. You are what I would call an OS "intelligent design" or creationist. This is exactly the excuse they use too. You funny, so there is o

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:17:34AM +0200, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Theo de Raadt schrieb: > > Hi Theo, > > I hope that nothing I ever say holds back our developers or community > > from doing what is right. I did not realize that the GNU and Linux > > kernel hackers were such dutiful slaves. > Well

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Theo de Raadt schrieb: Hi Theo, > I hope that nothing I ever say holds back our developers or community > from doing what is right. I did not realize that the GNU and Linux > kernel hackers were such dutiful slaves. Well yeah, the system is called capitalism and many hackers behave like slaves i

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Greg Thomas
"What a load of crap. You don't know what you are talking about. Everything else you said is exactly the same blathering; you are trying to say happy Linux things but there are no facts to support that the Linux crew or FSF has done ANYTHING which has gotten documentation for hardware out there.

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Lars NoodC)n schrieb: > > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > > > > http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it > > was the St

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Lars NoodC)n schrieb: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > > http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it > was the Stop-the-Blob camp

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Martin Schrvder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/26 Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more > recognition: > > > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > > > As the article points out, better late t

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-26, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: >> >>http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob >> >> As the article points out, better late than never. >> >> Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob As the article points out, better late than never. Though OpenBSD had been on

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Lars Noodén
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > sorry - the final nudge to do what exactly? Get off my backside and try working with OpenBSD. -Lars

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things t

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/6/26 Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. GPL'd drivers don't help much; some argue that they are part of the problem. ht