7;s ok. I may have a play around with an
unencrypted machine just for interest's sake.
- Original message -
From: "Rubén Llorente"
To: misc@openbsd.org
Cc: doo...@fastmail.net
Subject: Re: /altroot with multiple encrypted disks
Date: Thursday, 31 October 2024 7:07 PM
Phil
Phil wrote:
I guess an an appropriate boot block needs to be installed on the second
disk (I don't know how to do that either). Also I would guess /altroot
would need to be temporarily mounted after each backup to swap the
parameters in the "/" and "/altroot" lines. I'm not knowlegeable enough
t
Stuart Henderson writes:
> I would prefer to use almost anything else though and get versioned
> backups. Probably my most used backup/restore action is to get back a
> version of some file from yesterday so something that will only write
> the changes is useful. I quite like borg for this but th
On 2021-06-22, Andrew Robertson wrote:
> Is there any problem with putting ROOTBACKUP=1 in my weekly.local
> instead of daily.local? I'm backing up to an SD card and it's maybe not
> fast enough to back up in 24 hours, plus weekly backup would be fine.
It won't do anything in weekly.local; the
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>> df /altroot shows: "Mounted on /"
>> (df -h doesn't show /altroot.)
>
> Thus, /altroot is currently not mounted.
As you said before, it shouldn't be usually mounted as it is used by
dd(1). daily.out's output on the first email shows that th
>> What does
>> $ df /altroot
>> tell you, in particular, which mount point is it reporting?
>> "Mounted on /" or "Mounted on /altroot"?
> df /altroot shows: "Mounted on /"
> (df -h doesn't show /altroot.)
Thus, /altroot is currently not mounted.
> So i cannot browse the content of /altroot, ev
Andreas Gerdd wrote:
What does
$ df /altroot
tell you, in particular, which mount point is it reporting?
"Mounted on /" or "Mounted on /altroot"?
df /altroot shows: "Mounted on /"
(df -h doesn't show /altroot.)
So i cannot browse the content of /altroot, even though the backup
files are ther
> What does
> $ df /altroot
> tell you, in particular, which mount point is it reporting?
> "Mounted on /" or "Mounted on /altroot"?
df /altroot shows: "Mounted on /"
(df -h doesn't show /altroot.)
So i cannot browse the content of /altroot, even though the backup
files are there?
Andreas Gerdd wrote on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 06:01:07PM +0300:
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010, Nick Holland wrote:
>> Andreas Gerdd wrote:
>>> I try to have a root backup with /altroot.
>>> I did everything related to the man pages. But i wonder why my
>>> /altroot partition is still empty.
>>>
>>> fstab
ls /altroot
shows nothing inside, other than ./ and ../
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 17:51, Nick Holland wrote:
> Andreas Gerdd wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I try to have a root backup with /altroot.
>> I did everything related to the man pages. But i wonder why my
>> /altroot partition is still empty.
>>
>>
Andreas Gerdd wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I try to have a root backup with /altroot.
> I did everything related to the man pages. But i wonder why my
> /altroot partition is still empty.
>
> fstab file:
>
> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,softdep 1 1
> /dev/wd0d /altroot ffs xx 0 0
>
> Both / and /altroot partitions a
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Denny White wrote:
Sure. Original mount string for '/altroot' there was '/dev/wd2d /altroot
ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2'.
I do not see any messages about backup. How do I check if backup really
happen?
In daily output to root, the section of the message pertaining to
the bac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 09:44:43PM +, 4625 spoke thusly: > On Sat, 15 Aug
2009, Philip Guenther wrote: > >>> Is it correct string for /etc/fstab?
"/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0"
>>
>> Assuming /dev/wd2d is the correct partition, yes. (You're lo
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Igor Sobrado wrote:
Is it correct string for /etc/fstab? "/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0"
same device i am using here ("a" for root, "b" for swap, "c" entire
disk, "d" for /altroot, and so on...)
just two advices: (1) the /altroot filesystem must have the same size
He ha
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Philip Guenther wrote:
Is it correct string for /etc/fstab? "/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0"
Assuming /dev/wd2d is the correct partition, yes. (You're looking at
the daily(8) manpage, right?)
Sure. Original mount string for '/altroot' there was '/dev/wd2d
/altroot ffs r
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Philip Guenther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:44 PM, 4625<4625...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is it correct string for /etc/fstab? "/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0"
>
> Assuming /dev/wd2d is the correct partition, yes. (You're looking at
> the daily(8) manpage, right?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:44 PM, 4625<4625...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it correct string for /etc/fstab? "/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0"
Assuming /dev/wd2d is the correct partition, yes. (You're looking at
the daily(8) manpage, right?)
> Should "df" display the "/altroot"?
Only if you mount it y
Hi!
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:17:35PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Nick Holland wrote:
>>Really. /altroot is useful for certain things, but ONLY certain
>>things. Don't call it a backup, as it isn't rotated. You have
>I do backup everything.
>It's just that altroot is s
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Nick Holland wrote:
Really. /altroot is useful for certain things, but ONLY certain
things. Don't call it a backup, as it isn't rotated. You have
I do backup everything.
It's just that altroot is so easy to get a file you erased by mistake.
rm /etc/myfile... err fuck... m
* Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-07 04:22]:
> (add to that that Thunderbird is a brain-dead piece of shit when it
> comes to handling diffs in general and classic diffs even more so.
> Apparently, either Thunderbird devs aren't programmers or they never
> show their diffs to each other.)
or the
Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Nick Holland wrote:
>> what benefit do you see in having /altroot on the same disk as / ?
>
> See the thread "Regenerating damaged /etc" ;)
>
see /var/backup. :)
Really. /altroot is useful for certain things, but ONLY certain
things. Don't call it
Jan Stary wrote:
...
> See at bottom; looks much simpler now, hmm :-)
> I leave the RAID analogy to someone else.
>
> Anyway, first diff, screwed up,
I'd prefer the term, "learning experience".
> thanks for all the comments.
>
> Jan
>
>
> Index: faq4.html
> =
Hi all,
finally, a comment from someone who has a say in that.
> > this is a diff to faq4.html (the install faq) so that it mentions
> > /altroot for the installing user before he partitions his drive. Now,
> > the altroot feature is described in daily(8), which you only read when
> > you already
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Nick Holland wrote:
what benefit do you see in having /altroot on the same disk as / ?
See the thread "Regenerating damaged /etc" ;)
--
Antoine
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 01:23:55PM +1100, RW wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:26:04 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> >
> >Perhaps there needs to be a new fork: OldBSD: Unix for the Ages.
>
> s/Ages/Aged/ ??
>
> Given that I joined IBM in 1962, I am allowed to make such jokes.
> ~|^
> =
Ha!
Jan Stary wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this is a diff to faq4.html (the install faq) so that it mentions
> /altroot for the installing user before he partitions his drive. Now,
> the altroot feature is described in daily(8), which you only read when
> you already have a system installed, your disk is alre
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:26:04 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
>Perhaps there needs to be a new fork: OldBSD: Unix for the Ages.
s/Ages/Aged/ ??
Given that I joined IBM in 1962, I am allowed to make such jokes.
~|^
=
>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look from up over?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:11:55PM +0100, ropers wrote:
> On 06/11/2007, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is using a larger disk in the example a problem? Using a 20G disk makes
> > the point of showing how usable the system is even on a small disk, but
> > 20G disks don't really exist anym
> > 20G disks don't really exist anymore.
>
>
>O RLY?
>
>
> I always thought my 20 Gig HDD was the largest of my eight drives.
> Are you saying it's Schroedinger's hard drive?
>
> What about the others?
> My 200 MB would like to have a little word with you, and it doesn't
> look like it's p
On 06/11/2007, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> PS: As this is a small diff, I edited (my copy of) faq4.html manually;
> but if I was to write up something bigger - is there some script(1)-like
> log of the whole installation, or can I create one? Drop into shell at
> the very beginning, an
On 06/11/2007, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is using a larger disk in the example a problem? Using a 20G disk makes
> the point of showing how usable the system is even on a small disk, but
> 20G disks don't really exist anymore.
O RLY?
I always thought my 20 Gig HDD was the lar
Hi all,
this is a diff to faq4.html (the install faq) so that it mentions
/altroot for the installing user before he partitions his drive. Now,
the altroot feature is described in daily(8), which you only read when
you already have a system installed, your disk is already partitioned,
and typicall
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> While you're at it: the install docs cover the absolute minimum to run
> a basic system (I think they describe it as a basic home system
> connected to the internet). Could you include an example of the same
> thing but the minimum to be able to comp
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:54:45AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Sep 25 10:11:04, Joel Knight wrote:
> > --- Quoting Jan Stary on 2007/09/25 at 15:48 +0200:
> > > afterboot(8) mentions /altroot, which is a nice feature.
> > >
> > > But you only learn about /altroot when you read afterboot(8).
> > >
On Sep 25 10:11:04, Joel Knight wrote:
> --- Quoting Jan Stary on 2007/09/25 at 15:48 +0200:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > afterboot(8) mentions /altroot, which is a nice feature.
> >
> > But you only learn about /altroot when you read afterboot(8).
> > By that time, you already have a system installed,
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