Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-07 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > int mitigation has always made quite some difference, but now it is even > more, I agree. > I could never see a difference on Soekris boxes with a 400 us delay in if_sis in earlier OpenBSD versions. But I never tried higher delays than that. > nonth

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Chris Cappuccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 21:17]: > Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Sis(4) is plaing in the same league as rl(4). It works fine and I never > > had porblems with it but I would never use it in a router with high > > performance needs. > > No, the interface o

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-07 Thread Fredrik Carlsson
Hi, Thanks for all the input, we have decided to go for a Dell PE860 with an Intel quad pro/1000 GT adapter. Best regards Fredrik Carlsson

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sis(4) is plaing in the same league as rl(4). It works fine and I never > had porblems with it but I would never use it in a router with high > performance needs. No, the interface on sis is not as bad as the old rl chips. Also, the 83816 sis supports i

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Darren Spruell
On 6/6/07, Ronnie Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Henning Brauer a icrit : > * nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: >> I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and >> was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode >> (pf disabled) measured using

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Henning has something in saying that most of the tools aren't great, > in the end all benchmarks are artificial in some measure. Replaying > traffic is equally artificial as it's only indicative of the traffic > you recorded - which is likely to be biased towards whatever was > happening at the

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 17:52]: > Henning Brauer wrote: > > * nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: > >> I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and > >> was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode > >> (pf disabled) measured using

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Ted Bullock
Dave Harrison wrote: > However I'm not aware of any tools that handle that kind of > distributed benchmark.. anyone ? > httperf can be run in an array of clients (--client option), although there is currently no way to automatically aggregate the results. -- Theodore Bullock, <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread nate
Henning Brauer wrote: > * nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: >> I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and >> was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode >> (pf disabled) measured using iperf. > > the single-stream tcp test iperf uses is pret

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: was unaware that moose farts were slow. you learn something new every day :) i believe the speed of moose farts varies in relationship to the moose, meese?, distance from Calgary.

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Henning Brauer wrote: single tcp session benches are completely meaningless and will not max out any device faster than a moose fart was unaware that moose farts were slow. you learn something new every day :)

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Dave Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 13:52]: > If you're just looking for a big number, open a single TCP session and > send alot of traffic through it so you don't have to continually start > new sessions (sessions are comparatively expensive). single tcp session benches are completely

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Dave Harrison
Matt Rowley wrote: >>> best "simulation" is recording your real-world traffic using tcpdump and >>> then use tcpreplay. but that is tricky too. >> Henning has something in saying that most of the tools aren't great, >> in the end all benchmarks are artificial in some measure. Replaying >> traffic

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Matt Rowley
> > best "simulation" is recording your real-world traffic using tcpdump and > > then use tcpreplay. but that is tricky too. > > Henning has something in saying that most of the tools aren't great, > in the end all benchmarks are artificial in some measure. Replaying > traffic is equally artific

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Dave Harrison
Henning Brauer wrote: > * Ronnie Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 13:04]: >> Henning Brauer a icrit : >>> * nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged m

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Ronnie Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 13:04]: > Henning Brauer a icrit : > >* nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: > >>I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and > >>was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode > >>(pf disabled) measur

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Ronnie Garcia
Henning Brauer a icrit : * nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode (pf disabled) measured using iperf. the single-stream tcp test iperf uses is pretty mean

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:44]: > I built 3 OpenBSD 3.6(?) servers in mid 2005 with these cards, and > was able to get a peak throughput of about 520Mbps in bridged mode > (pf disabled) measured using iperf. the single-stream tcp test iperf uses is pretty meaningless (unless.. well,

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Fredrik Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 21:04]: > Jason Dixon wrote: > >On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:26:19 +0200, Fredrik Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what > >>quad ethernet cards people recom

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-06 Thread Marc Balmer
* Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/06/05 18:10, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > > > > > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at > > > least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one > > > installed in a de

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:49:05PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: > On 6/5/07, Claudio Jeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:10:08PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: > >> On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > >> > >> > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On 6/5/07, Claudio Jeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:10:08PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > > > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at > > least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and curren

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/05 18:10, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > > > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at > > least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one > > installed in a dell 1550 that works just fine. You can

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:10:08PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > > > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at > > least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one > > installed in a dell 1550 that work

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: > Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at > least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one > installed in a dell 1550 that works just fine. You can find the Sun > quad cards for really cheap off of eb

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Robert Franklin
Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one installed in a dell 1550 that works just fine. You can find the Sun quad cards for really cheap off of ebay. I think I picked mine up for around $40 USD.

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Darth Lists
Daniel Polak wrote: Original message from Fredrik Carlsson at 5-6-2007 18:26 I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what quad ethernet cards people recommend? The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported by OpenBSD), but what quad ca

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Jun 5, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Fredrik Carlsson wrote: A mix of all that ;) It's in the startup phase so I can't provide that much info yet, but there will be a lot of machines and we will be routing much traffic internally and to Internet. The budget is quite important, so if there is a c

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread nate
Fredrik Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what > quad ethernet cards people recommend? > The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported > by OpenBSD), but what quad cards should i buy? what cards have good > perfo

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Fredrik Carlsson
Jeroen Massar wrote: Fredrik Carlsson wrote: Hi, I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what quad ethernet cards people recommend? The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported by OpenBSD), but what quad cards should i buy? what cards h

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Fredrik Carlsson
Jason Dixon wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:26:19 +0200, Fredrik Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what quad ethernet cards people recommend? The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported by Op

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Jeroen Massar
Fredrik Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what > quad ethernet cards people recommend? > The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported > by OpenBSD), but what quad cards should i buy? what cards have good > perfo

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Daniel Polak
Original message from Fredrik Carlsson at 5-6-2007 18:26 I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what quad ethernet cards people recommend? The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported by OpenBSD), but what quad cards should i buy? wha

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:26:19 +0200, Fredrik Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what > quad ethernet cards people recommend? > The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported > by OpenBSD), but w

Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread Fredrik Carlsson
Hi, I'm planing to set up a new firewall and have a few questions about what quad ethernet cards people recommend? The server will probably be a Dell PE860 (they seem to be well supported by OpenBSD), but what quad cards should i buy? what cards have good performance? Best regards Fredrik Ca

Ultra2 Enterprise quad ethernet card (AMD Am79C940)

2006-08-10 Thread David
Anyone got any suggestions for getting this card started correctly? Seen the question in older posts, but never an answer (running sparc64 generic). kind regards David qec0 at sbus0 slot 0 offset 0x2 vector 4 ipl 2: 128K memory qe0 at qec0 slot 0 offset 0x0 rev 1iomap insert error: 12 for va