Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Kay
e got a better picture now > and as Nick said I will try several architectures, my original > intention was to learn more about microprocessors at low level. > > 2011/7/25 Nick Holland : >> On 07/24/11 07:27, Tomas Vavrys wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am l

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Erik
Op 24-7-2011 23:35, Tomas Vavrys schreef: This looks also promising... http://www.genesi-usa.com/products Are there any plans to support this architecture? Don't think so: http://www.openbsd.org/pegasos.html says it all. Erik

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-25 Thread Tomas Vavrys
several architectures, my original intention was to learn more about microprocessors at low level. 2011/7/25 Nick Holland : > On 07/24/11 07:27, Tomas Vavrys wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes, >> because I don't want to

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread bofh
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes, > because I don't want to break my current workstation. If you are doing only userland development, why would it break your current workstation?

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread Nick Holland
On 07/24/11 07:27, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes, > because I don't want to break my current workstation. > > I was thinking about > http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread David Vasek
Again, I am not the right to answer, but try to guess it yourself. It is a different architecture, but... http://www.openbsd.org/pegasos.html Regards, David On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > This looks also promising... http://www.genesi-usa.com/products > Are there any plans to suppor

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread Tomas Vavrys
This looks also promising... http://www.genesi-usa.com/products Are there any plans to support this architecture? 2011/7/24 David Vasek : > Hi! > > I am not the right person to answer this and don't want to spread any > nonsense. There are others here who are. > > What I can say is, any m68k CPU i

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread David Vasek
Hi! I am not the right person to answer this and don't want to spread any nonsense. There are others here who are. What I can say is, any m68k CPU in its era was much much saner than any member of the x86 family. Today, I would rather look for more sanity at sparc64 (which survives in rather s

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread Billy
David, If "learning a sane and proper computer architecture" is the perpose, what system do you recommend from the list of platform that OBSD supports? thanks and regards, bill David Vasek )s 2011&~7$k24$i $U$H7:52 On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > >> This device will be used only fo

Re: PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread David Vasek
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Tomas Vavrys wrote: This device will be used only for my learning purposes. I would like to jump on C and compilers later. Is it better to start with RISC or CISC? Should I buy rather x86? Buy the platfrom you want to learn. x86 architecture is full of its design issues a

PC for assembly learning purposes

2011-07-24 Thread Tomas Vavrys
Hello, I am looking for a new cheap PC for assembly learning purposes, because I don't want to break my current workstation. I was thinking about http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-006 but I am a little bit worried about current status