Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Tony
Uwe Dippel wrote: > > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > So don't use it. > > > > But please, I beg of you, stop your incessant complaining. > > > > The more you whine, the less we feel the need to change anything. > > Oh, my wrong. I simply thought you were with the intention to improve > the system

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Uwe Dippel
Theo de Raadt wrote: So don't use it. But please, I beg of you, stop your incessant complaining. The more you whine, the less we feel the need to change anything. Oh, my wrong. I simply thought you were with the intention to improve the system. And I was more than willing to help out here b

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
> As much as I welcomed openntpd (the other one is a bore to set up), now I > feel less happy. I don't need more than 50 msec of precision, but I'd > sleep better if it noticed 'running away'; and I'd be happy if it noticed > great deviations and warned me, respectively initiated some rough setting

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:23:20 -0800, Ted Unangst wrote: > start it with -s. Ted, thanks, I know. But this doesn't help my concerns: 1. Since it isn't the default flag; plus I *did* use it on those Proliants and the drift increasingly moved away from 0. Or, as we say in Process Control, the Error

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Ted Unangst
On 12/15/05, Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:32:13 +1100, Darren Tucker wrote: > > > By my rough calculations, your system clock is drifting at about 1.6%, > > which is more than adjtime can correct for (roughly 0.5%). > > All fine, and no flame intended: > There have

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-15 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:32:13 +1100, Darren Tucker wrote: > By my rough calculations, your system clock is drifting at about 1.6%, > which is more than adjtime can correct for (roughly 0.5%). All fine, and no flame intended: There have been people bragging about openntpd to be advantageous compare

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-13 Thread Darren Tucker
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 04:14:06PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Drifting off: > > Dec 13 12:49:00 cip ntpd[26647]: ntp engine ready > Dec 13 12:49:22 cip ntpd[26647]: peer 172.16.0.4 now valid > Dec 13 12:50:16 cip ntpd[22805]: adjusting local clock by 39.362721s [...] > Dec 13 13:02:33 cip ntpd[228

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-13 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:50:53 +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > There is a fix in current concerning adjtime() adjusting in the wrong > direction, but that only happens with much larger offsets. That fix > also has nothing to do with UP vs MP. You are looking at a genuine mp > bug, it seems. This is w

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-13 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Uwe Dippel wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:30:07 -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > > > 1) set time properly, using rdate or ntpd -s. > > Done > > > 2) now how does it do? > > Drifting off: > > Dec 13 12:49:00 cip ntpd[26647]: ntp engine ready > Dec 13 12:49:22 cip ntpd[26647]:

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-13 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:30:07 -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > 1) set time properly, using rdate or ntpd -s. Done > 2) now how does it do? Drifting off: Dec 13 12:49:00 cip ntpd[26647]: ntp engine ready Dec 13 12:49:22 cip ntpd[26647]: peer 172.16.0.4 now valid Dec 13 12:50:16 cip ntpd[22805]: adju

Re: OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-12 Thread Nick Holland
Uwe Dippel wrote: > [Background: we now received the second batch of Proliant ML-350G4p with > dual core Xeon. I had pointed out earlier that bsd.mp performs a > miscalculation of the time-stamp by 2:1 on ML350G4. This is unresolved > despite all efforts and input; but goes into another thread.] >

OpenNTPD does not 'pull-in' wrong time

2005-12-12 Thread Uwe Dippel
[Background: we now received the second batch of Proliant ML-350G4p with dual core Xeon. I had pointed out earlier that bsd.mp performs a miscalculation of the time-stamp by 2:1 on ML350G4. This is unresolved despite all efforts and input; but goes into another thread.] On the ML350G4p the time wit