Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-04-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-03-31, John Brooks wrote: > that was the entire point of my original post, they > strip out their queue id from their acknowledgment > for "security reasons", and then "accept all mail" > including bogus recipients. > > I was curious if this practice is very widespread > or not. not very

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-04-01 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, [ I don't yet see how this is related to Postfix, or OpenBSD ] On Sat, 28.03.2009 at 11:47:41 +0200, Lars NoodC)n wrote: > I run into it a lot. My guess is that it's to distract from the "IT" > team having selected software which doesn't work reliably. So if they > make enough extra probl

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:35:15PM -0500, John Brooks said that > that was the entire point of my original post, they > strip out their queue id from their acknowledgment > for "security reasons", and then "accept all mail" > including bogus recipients. > > I was curious if this practice is v

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread John Brooks
that was the entire point of my original post, they strip out their queue id from their acknowledgment for "security reasons", and then "accept all mail" including bogus recipients. I was curious if this practice is very widespread or not. -- John Brooks j...@day-light.com ... > In our mail log

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:46:13PM -0500, John Brooks said that > I've just received this response from a large corporate email > system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not > getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements > of accepting the mail sent. > > I

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-28 Thread Lars Noodén
(private) HKS wrote: > Why sacrifice usability for no additional security? I run into it a lot. My guess is that it's to distract from the "IT" team having selected software which doesn't work reliably. So if they make enough extra problems, no one will take the time to get to the real cause: MS

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-28 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:50:21 -0500, Matthew Weigel wrote: >Rod Whitworth wrote: > Anybody run into this kind of logic before? >>> Yes, that's part of how greytrapping works: >>> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=spamd#GREYTRAPPING >> >> No. That is NOT how greytrapping works. RTF

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread Matthew Weigel
Rod Whitworth wrote: >>> Anybody run into this kind of logic before? >> Yes, that's part of how greytrapping works: >> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=spamd#GREYTRAPPING > > No. That is NOT how greytrapping works. RTFM more carefully. > > spamd NEVER issues a 2xx code, because it N

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread Brian Keefer
On Mar 27, 2009, at 12:46 PM, John Brooks wrote: Their response: ... "my understanding of the security policy is not to acknowledge mistakes in email addresses as a best practice defense against phishing and other types of email delivered attacks." Anybody run into this kind of logic before?

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:24:31 -0500, Matthew Weigel wrote: >John Brooks wrote: >> I've just received this response from a large corporate email >> system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not >> getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements >> of accepting the mail

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread Matthew Weigel
John Brooks wrote: I've just received this response from a large corporate email system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements of accepting the mail sent. In our mail logs: ... status=sent (250 Message accepted for

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 02:46 PM 3/27/2009 -0500, John Brooks wrote: I've just received this response from a large corporate email system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements of accepting the mail sent. Must be a legal firm? Can't think

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread (private) HKS
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:46 PM, John Brooks wrote: > I've just received this response from a large corporate email > system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not > getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements > of accepting the mail sent. > > In our mail logs: >

OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-27 Thread John Brooks
I've just received this response from a large corporate email system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements of accepting the mail sent. In our mail logs: ... status=sent (250 Message accepted for delivery) Their res