Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"Martin Schrvder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Only the non-Germans. But you north-americans have probably also never > expierenced the wonders of DECT or GSM... :-) It's possible ISDN was done right in Germany. Up here in Norway, it was the last-gasp attempt at abusing a monopoly position befo

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/1/9, Peter N. M. Hansteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > straightforward to use it via ppp. Otherwise, I think ISDN is one of > those technologies a significant part of the OpenBSD population would > be very happy to suppress any remaining memories of. Only the non-Germans. But you north-americans h

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-10 Thread Karl Karlsson
2008/1/9, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a > > dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have > > long since disappeared from the market. > > > > -- > >

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Miod Vallat
> > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. > > My eyes! Aaarrrghhh... the "pleasure" of remembering the days I had > to implement an X.25 stack... aaah One day, DECnet (phase IV) will rule this world. Miod

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Diana Eichert wrote: > > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. My eyes! Aaarrrghhh... the "pleasure" of remembering the days I had to implement an X.25 stack... aaah -Toby. -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Nick Bender
> give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. Don't forget to run uucp over it ;-)

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Ray Percival
On Jan 9, 2008, at 14:24, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Marco S Hyman wrote: Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.3/X.28/X.29). a Yellow book version, none of that fancy new red or blue book stuff. It scares me that I remember such stuff. // marc Where a "trip

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Marco S Hyman wrote: Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.3/X.28/X.29). a Yellow book version, none of that fancy new red or blue book stuff. It scares me that I remember such stuff. // marc Where a "triple-X pad" is not a description of some leftover Hippie from the 60's c

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Diana Eichert writes: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > run H.323 and you can experience much of that same pain again > > and more besides :-) > > (now we digress) > > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.

OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Stuart Henderson wrote: run H.323 and you can experience much of that same pain again and more besides :-) (now we digress) give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. diana

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have long since disappeared from the market. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/09 18:37, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the > >>OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining > >>memories of. > > > > I'm getting flashbacks just reading th

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Shohrukh Shoyoqubov
There is a Sangoma card supported by OpenBSD, it is ISDN PRI (T1/E1) though, not BRI. I think it is A101, not sure about other models. 2008/1/9, SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > IS

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the >>OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining >>memories of. > > I'm getting flashbacks just reading this. yes, the pain. the pain. we hates it, preciousss -- Pe

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Ray Percival
I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining memories of. I'm getting flashbacks just reading this. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Nick Bender
> Any suggestions? Get a Netgear ISDN router - used one for a number of years with no problems. They come in either single network connection or with 4 port hub. -N

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > Simple answer: no Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have long since disappeared from the market. -- Christi

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 14:53]: > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > ISDN terminal adapter (USB interface). > > Until now I didn't find any configuration hints for ISDN devices under > OpenBSD. I

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > ISDN terminal adapter (USB interface). If your ISDN TA can be made to look like a serial device and accept AT commands (ie behave like a mode

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Andre Ruppert
Sorry, no chance Regards Andre Ruppert

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, SeDoFa wrote: Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? Simple answer: no

OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread SeDoFa
Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external ISDN terminal adapter (USB interface). Until now I didn't find any configuration hints for ISDN devices under OpenBSD. I have found only a project called isdn4bsd, but unfortunately, t