Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: > ; Do something about it > ; Use another OS > ; Complain > > Which are you doing? None of the above. I ignore flash. My comment was only to point out that gnash is not the best example to show why Linux emulation isn't needed. Oh, I ignore Linux emulation, too.

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Marco S Hyman writes: > Deanna Phillips writes: > > But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run > > Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, > > anyway? Don't give me that "I need Flash", since I spent months > > of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD ju

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: > But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run > Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, > anyway? Don't give me that "I need Flash", since I spent months > of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD just so you wouldn't > have to use

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:14:27PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel > > level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely > > no interest in that whatsoever. y

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Should a worthy > > alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could > > port it to Sun audio. > > What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by al

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should a worthy > alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could > port it to Sun audio. What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by all Jabber clients which support VoIP - and it only supports ALSA (at least the last

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Dusty
On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan Schleifer writes: > > > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we > >> have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. > >> I have absolutel

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Jonathan Schleifer writes: > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we >> have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. >> I have absolutely no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have >> better luck convincing Adobe to

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel > level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely > no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have better luck convincing > Adobe to make an OpenBSD native version of

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:21:01AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > > There is also the question of ALSA compatibility layer which is in my > > understanding slowly incorporated into OSS. Is it really important to have > > ALSA compatibility layer? Can somebody give me an example of the software > >

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Jan 9, 2008 12:45 AM, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:54:58PM -0300, Andr?s wrote: > > Jacob Meuser wrote: > > "the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices." > > > > Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Matthew Szudzik
> There is also the question of ALSA compatibility layer which is in my > understanding slowly incorporated into OSS. Is it really important to have > ALSA compatibility layer? Can somebody give me an example of the software > which requires ALSA (please exclude Skype although there is OSS version

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:14:18PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Andr?s wrote: > >Jacob Meuser wrote: > >"the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio > >devices." > > > >Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD > >contribute its development to

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:54:58PM -0300, Andr?s wrote: > Jacob Meuser wrote: > "the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices." > > Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD > contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operatin

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Andris wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: "the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices." Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operating systems using it could benefit? And then OpenBSD

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-08 Thread Andrés
Jacob Meuser wrote: "the current audio system actually supports a wider variety of audio devices." Sorry for the non-technically-based question but, couldn't OpenBSD contribute its development to audio drivers to OSS so all operating systems using it could benefit? And then OpenBSD could support j

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Unix Fan
Awesome, It's great that they decided to release the code under a 2 clause BSD licence... :-) But I don't the the OpenBSD project should rip out it's entire current framework and start using this package.. Still, It could serve as an excellent research... for additional drivers, inspiratio

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 05:47:11PM -0800, Bryan Linton wrote: > I just saw that OSS v4.0 has been released under a 2-clause BSD license. [1] > > I haven't seen it mentioned on the list yet and I know there's been a lot > of audio related development going on in -current so I just thought I'd > me

OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-07 Thread Bryan Linton
I just saw that OSS v4.0 has been released under a 2-clause BSD license. [1] I haven't seen it mentioned on the list yet and I know there's been a lot of audio related development going on in -current so I just thought I'd mention it for anyone who might be interested. Their website hasn't been