Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-12 Thread Dan Farrell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Holland Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:44 PM To: misc Subject: Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: [you edited out discussion of *USB* devices] >> Normally these devices come

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread Nick Holland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: [you edited out discussion of *USB* devices] Normally these devices come up in the same order each time. It is not gauranteed, unfortunately, because device bring up can race against other devices. I've seen it be non-deterministic. me, too. especially, i

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: me, too. especially, if you plug in another nic on pci between 2 other nics. this is really confusing the box. also take care for your bios interrupt settings - if you have a lot of traffic, it sometimes can be smart to put all the nics on the same interrupt.

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
> Normally these devices come up in the same order each time. > > It is not gauranteed, unfortunately, because device bring up can > race against other devices. I've seen it be non-deterministic. > me, too. especially, if you plug in another nic on pci between 2 other nics. this is really confu

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 5/9/06, Dave Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings, I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to OpenBSD at the same time. The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using 'ifrena

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > There may be a race in usb for how devices respond, but I bet it is small > > and not really that worrying. One day maybe someone can look at it. > > Is there something to look for there? My limited experience with usb on > OpenBSD leads me to think every thing comes in with the same order by

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 06:46:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never > >changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. > > We have worked very hard at this. On a particular machine, yes, it should > be deterministic.

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:03:41PM -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: > Darrin Chandler wrote: > > So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never > > changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. > Me, I just lurk here, but the impression I get is that > 1) anywhere e

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Tony Abernethy
Darrin Chandler wrote: > > On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:14:06PM -0400, Adam wrote: > > On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > or another viable solution. > > > > There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD > doesn't randomly > > reord

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
>> There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly >> reorder interfaces for no reason. > >So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never >changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. We have worked very hard at this. On a particular

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
>I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have >a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to >OpenBSD at the same time. > >The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using 'ifrename' I'm >able to specify which NICs are assigned each part

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:14:06PM -0400, Adam wrote: > On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > or another viable solution. > > There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly > reorder interfaces for no reason. So the order in

Re: Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Adam
On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > or another viable solution. There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly reorder interfaces for no reason. Adam

Manually "naming" Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Crawford
Greetings, I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to OpenBSD at the same time. The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using 'ifrename' I'm able to specify which NICs are assigned e