Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: >Yes you're right but a "OpenHTTPD" with "OpenMOD_GZIP" and maybe IPv6 is >still missing. And maybe a OpenSQUID... :-))) >Just jokingoO(But httpD improvements would be realy cool. :) ) $ uname -a OpenBSD jiyu.gnook.org 3.7 GENERIC#97 i386 Doing a $ cvs -qz1 -d [EMAIL

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-03 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 2005-05-03, at 2:12 PM, Sean Brown wrote: be more to your liking? OpenOpenWall perhaps? OpenLinux? ^ Careful. A very vomit worthy company has a trademark on that one... http://ir.sco.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=70727 Although, maybe not

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-03 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Monday, May 2, Sean Brown wrote: > > Is that for the stupid Open* suggestion or the fact it was Bash? Would > OpenKDE be more to your liking? OpenOpenWall perhaps? OpenLinux? Uuuggghhh!!! Ok, I just want to drink beer and hack. The rest will take care of itself. --Toby.

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-02 Thread Miod Vallat
> > > I'm looking forward to OpenBash > > > > Why do you want every OpenBSD developer to puke? > > > > Miod > Is that for the stupid Open* suggestion or the fact it was Bash? The latter. Miod

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-02 Thread Sean Brown
On May 1, 2005 3:31 pm, Miod Vallat wrote: > > I'm looking forward to OpenBash > > Why do you want every OpenBSD developer to puke? > > Miod Is that for the stupid Open* suggestion or the fact it was Bash? Would OpenKDE be more to your liking? OpenOpenWall perhaps? OpenLinux?

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-02 Thread Kim Hawtin
Steve Shockley wrote: Sean Brown wrote: I'm looking forward to OpenBash If you keep saying things like that, Theo's going to change the default shell back to csh. what is this attraction to csh anyway? cheers, kim -- Kim Hawtin : IT Systems Administrator Ratbag : Level 8 - 63 Pirie Street Adelaide

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Han Boetes
Sean Brown wrote: > I'm looking forward to OpenBash Do you realize that on my only Linux machine I don't even have bash installed. I replaced /bin/sh with ash and I use zsh for my shell. bash for Linux is like Internet Explorer for windows. It comes preinstalled so everyone uses it and doesn't bo

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
> Sean Brown wrote: >>I'm looking forward to OpenBash > > They already have it, it's called ksh. Yes you're right but a "OpenHTTPD" with "OpenMOD_GZIP" and maybe IPv6 is still missing. And maybe a OpenSQUID... :-))) Just jokingoO(But httpD improvements would be realy cool. :) ) Kind regards,

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Jan Izary
Sean Brown wrote: I'm looking forward to OpenBash They already have it, it's called ksh. _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread St.Roy
Thierry Deval wrote: On May 1, 2005, at 23:31, Miod Vallat wrote: I'm looking forward to OpenBash I think they should write the ultimate virus! Take out Windows completely! Think of it!; it would be the big bang all over again! Alternately, I could live with mount_smbfs (puts on flame retardant su

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Steve Shockley
Sean Brown wrote: I'm looking forward to OpenBash If you keep saying things like that, Theo's going to change the default shell back to csh.

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Thierry Deval
On May 1, 2005, at 23:31, Miod Vallat wrote: I'm looking forward to OpenBash Why do you want every OpenBSD developer to puke? Jeez, I didn't read that ! And it is indeed MY feeling. :p

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Miod Vallat
> I'm looking forward to OpenBash > Why do you want every OpenBSD developer to puke? Miod

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Sean Brown
On May 1, 2005 2:11 pm, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Sun, 1 May 2005, Ben Goren wrote: > > I did *not* say that I expected a Sendmail replacement any time > > soon--quite the opposite. Let me put a definite limit on this: I'd bet > > no more than (a modest) lunch, and only on the condition that I alre

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
Sorry If I didn't read to well, but when exactly is the hackaton planned? I always like to have my personal hackaton at the same time and I always watch every CVS commit. Wijnand

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, 1 May 2005, Ben Goren wrote: > I did *not* say that I expected a Sendmail replacement any time > soon--quite the opposite. Let me put a definite limit on this: I'd bet > no more than (a modest) lunch, and only on the condition that I already > happened to be in the same city when the be

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Ben Goren
On 2005 Apr 30, at 5:22 PM, Jeff Bachtel wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:30:28PM -0700, Ben Goren wrote: >> As much as I'm sure Theo would love to get rid of gcc and >> friends...damn, that's a big undertaking. I don't think it's the sort >> of thing that would happen at a hackathon. If I had

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-05-01 Thread Johan P. Lindström
A few promissing tasks indeed, What ever endeavours you may embark on during the Hackathon, I hope you find a nice beer buzz and as Jan Izary put it; > Beyond that we can hope that someone has > a moment of clarity and comes up with > another sweet addition like spamd. > If I wasn't sure develop

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread auto275911
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 :) Hah. On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:12:39 -0700 Raymond Lillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear auto... > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Theo, >> >> Perhaps your a bit "ininformed" yourself.. unless the

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Tony
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Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Jan Izary
Perhaps your a bit "ininformed" yourself.. unless there is some weird canadian/US translation going on here, I am pretty sure that the word you were looking for was infact, "uninformed". :) Oh shit! Theo didn't proof read his e-mail! The two keys are right next to each other man, no need to bug

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Raymond Lillard
Dear auto... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo, Perhaps your a bit "ininformed" yourself.. unless there is some weird canadian/US translation going on here, I am pretty sure that the word you were looking for was infact, "uninformed". :) Nor is there any su

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread auto275911
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo, Perhaps your a bit "ininformed" yourself.. unless there is some weird canadian/US translation going on here, I am pretty sure that the word you were looking for was infact, "uninformed". :) On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:03:01 -0700 Theo de Raadt <[EMA

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > >> track and keep up to date another openbsd patch that sendmail won't > > >> integrate into their tree. We already know that Postfix and qmail don't > > > Sorry for not being clear, but I was using it as an example. There are > > many cases of organizations not accepting patches from the op

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Christopher Hylarides
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005, Christopher Hylarides wrote: >> An OpenSMTPd would surprise me, but it doesn't mean that as we write, >> some >> OpenBSD developer isn't just about to say "that does it!" with having to >> track and keep up to date another openbsd patch that sendmail won't >> integrate into

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Claus Assmann
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005, Christopher Hylarides wrote: > >> track and keep up to date another openbsd patch that sendmail won't > >> integrate into their tree. We already know that Postfix and qmail don't > Sorry for not being clear, but I was using it as an example. There are > many cases of organ

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Claus Assmann
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005, Christopher Hylarides wrote: > An OpenSMTPd would surprise me, but it doesn't mean that as we write, some > OpenBSD developer isn't just about to say "that does it!" with having to > track and keep up to date another openbsd patch that sendmail won't > integrate into their tr

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> While I'm not a developer, I do beleive it scales reasonably well writing > their own implementations. Scaling isn't really our concern; I barely know what the word means. There is one group of people who we do know scales. Whiners. They scale really well.

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I don't have any point to make on the value of these > projects, however "does this scale?" How does it scale that we have to listen to your ininformed gibberish day in day out?

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Christopher Hylarides
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:30:28PM -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > BTW, I just checked out the OpenCVS page. You know, it used to be that > people would join a project and commit fixes or enhancements, rather > than fork first and ask questions later. Is this really the best use > of developer resource

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Adam
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:22:48 -0500 Jeff Bachtel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I just checked out the OpenCVS page. You know, it used to be that > people would join a project and commit fixes or enhancements, rather > than fork first and ask questions later. Is this really the best use > of deve

Re: Hackathon 2005

2005-04-30 Thread Jeff Bachtel
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:30:28PM -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > As much as I'm sure Theo would love to get rid of gcc and > friends...damn, that's a big undertaking. I don't think it's the sort > of thing that would happen at a hackathon. If I had to guess, it'd be > made the main point of some fut