Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Hekeler
> I'm not absolutely sure that is true - but the fact that the first time > that "myname" appeared in BSD code in the sense of a host name > was as a variable name inside the C code of some UUCP-related program > in 2BSD in 1979 at least makes your statement somewhat plausible - Thanks for clarifi

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hello, Michael Hekeler wrote on Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 11:00:35AM +0200: > Some times ago if you required to have a unique UUCP node name for your > computer it was defined in some way as `myname`. > I think that was the reason for OpenBSD's "/etc/myname" filename I'm not absolutely sure that is t

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Hekeler
> It is a very well established convention that words represent what they mean, > and their description is found in a good dictionary. If you change the > meaning of a word, in a dictionary of your own, the rest of the world will > not understand what you say. > > hostname is a very well establ

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-09 Thread Evan Silberman
> On Apr 8, 2025, at 11:47 PM, otto.cooper wrote: > > It is a very well established convention that words represent what they mean The philosophical community remains vexed by this issue but I’m glad you’ve got a handle on it.

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-08 Thread otto.cooper
It is a very well established convention that words represent what they mean, and their description is found in a good dictionary. If you change the meaning of a word, in a dictionary of your own, the rest of the world will not understand what you say. hostname is a very well established word i

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-04-08 Thread Michael Hekeler
> You think of hostname, look for /etc/hostname, and find something unrelated. > The file /etc/hostname does not exist. > The files /etc/hostname.if do exist, but have nothing to do with the host > name. > By comparison, in linux /etc/hostname exists and serves the intended purpose. > This is not

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-03-24 Thread jbranso
March 24, 2025 at 11:43 AM, "Emiel Kollof" mailto:em...@kollof.nl?to=%22Emiel%20Kollof%22%20%3Cemiel%40kollof.nl%3E > wrote: > > otto.cooper schreef op 2025-03-24 15:54: > > > > > Hello, > > > [snip] > > > > > This is not intuitive. > > > OpenBSD != Linux > > The only intuitive interfac

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-03-24 Thread Emiel Kollof
otto.cooper schreef op 2025-03-24 15:54: Hello, [snip] This is not intuitive. OpenBSD != Linux The only intuitive interface for mammalians (including humans) is the nipple. Everything else needs to be taught or learned through trial and error. Cheers, Emiel

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-03-24 Thread Brian Conway
> Can we agree that /etc/myname can be safely and easily replaced with > /etc/hostname? A breaking change for a design decision made 30 years ago in this source tree (I didn't take the time to search other trees that predate it) seems like a tall ask. So perhaps not "easily". https://github.co

Re: Comment on /etc/myname vs /etc/hostname (edited)

2025-03-24 Thread otto.cooper
Hello, # Q1 Suppose you want to change the host name. You think of hostname, look for /etc/hostname, and find something unrelated. The file /etc/hostname does not exist. The files /etc/hostname.if do exist, but have nothing to do with the host name. By comparison, in linux /etc/hostname exist