On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:26:52 -0600 (MDT), Diana Eichert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>just use some 50cal BMG rounds, that should be effective ammunition.
>
>sorry, I just had to after following this thread for awhile
I think you're taking the phrase "Bullet-Proof Software" a bit too
literally. ;-)
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
whistles.
Well, I we connected a new client with straight eth
just use some 50cal BMG rounds, that should be effective ammunition.
sorry, I just had to after following this thread for awhile
On 08/03/05 22:48, Jesper Louis Andersen wrote:
..
So you forget the last term by saying ''twice as much''. You have to
deduct the probability that both events occur (or it would have been
''counted'' twice).
Mathematically correct, but not realistic if one power supply fails in the
serial
On 8/3/05, Matt Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The cynical side of me thinks that managers, no matter how great the
> reality of OpenBSD, are likely to reject it based on a fear
> and/or ignorance of open source, or with logic like, "Well if it's
> so good, how come I've never heard of it?"
T
chefren wrote:
Two equal power supplies "in line": Twice as much the risk of a
brakedown of the system and two times as much failures of power supplies.
Lets see.
Let X be the (boolean) random variable designating ''system X breaks
down in the first N years''. Equally, let Y be the random va
On 8/3/05, Matt Garman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think everyone on this list has done a wonderful job explaining
> why an OpenBSD box will beat the D-Link practically hands-down.
>
> The cynical side of me thinks that managers, no matter how great the
> reality of OpenBSD, are likely to rejec
On 08/03/05 20:15, Jim O'Donald wrote:
That logic is completely false and you contradict yourself.
Pooh pooh.
Allowing for multiple points of failure does not mean that something is
less reliable as you have described. It means that if/when one fails, the
other will still be available.
But
On 08/03/05 20:55, Dave Feustel wrote:
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 01:15 pm, Jim O'Donald wrote:
Using your example of a power supply lasting 10 years, that would
translate to 2 failures in 10 years, not 1 failure in 5 years.
And if the box is properly designed, it will continue running unle
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 01:15 pm, Jim O'Donald wrote:
> Using your example of a power supply lasting 10 years, that would
> translate to 2 failures in 10 years, not 1 failure in 5 years.
And if the box is properly designed, it will continue running unless both
power supplies fail simultaneousl
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On 08/03/05 19:25, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> You mean having the DSL router and modem be in the same physical box,
> thus introducing a single point
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 02:35:07AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> your FUD" look, just level with them. "If you really want me to go
> into all the various technical details involved in a full source
> code audit the costs you would bear to do an equivalent audit on a
> closed source binary through r
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Will H. Backman wrote:
> Many of these devices provide the "what if I get hit by a bus"
> protection of a simple, single purpose system. If you use something
> like OpenBSD, it can be viewed as a homegrown application that must be
> supported by the organization,
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Will H. Backman wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> > Rod.. Whitworth
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:04 PM
> > To: Miscellaneous OBSD
> > Subje
On 08/03/05 19:25, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
You mean having the DSL router and modem be in the same physical box,
thus introducing a single point of failure? That's a huge minus.
??? You would prefer a milion boxes for each individual transistor or logic
gate?
Two boxes have two CPU's, two powe
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 10:30 +0200, Alexander Farber wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
>
> D-Link can DSL. OpenBSD can not. So you have to
> buy at least a DSL modem for OpenBSD. And since you
> are buying a DSL modem, why not add 20 Euros and
> buy a DSL-router?
At 04:30 AM 8/3/05, Alexander Farber wrote:
I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
D-Link can DSL.
Does it really? My D-link router (at home) is tossing SYN attacks back to
the modem (as determined by ISP monitoring) causing the DSL modem to
lockup. I am eager to learn how to
I do not know what a system looks like to an attacker trying to
fingerprint you using boxes from "Office Depot."
However, I would hope that using OpenBSD/pf that I could advertise the
fact that I am using OpenBSD/pf, and someone would just move on to their
next target.
Sincerely, Rob
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Rod.. Whitworth
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:04 PM
> To: Miscellaneous OBSD
> Subject: Ammunition needed to defend OpenBSD/pf
>
> Somebody sent me a query asking fo
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:03:23 +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:30:25AM +0200, Alexander Farber wrote:
>| Hi,
>|
>| I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
>|
>| D-Link can DSL. OpenBSD can not. So you have to
>| buy at least a DSL modem for OpenBSD. And since you
>|
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:30:25 +0200, Alexander Farber wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
>
>D-Link can DSL. OpenBSD can not. So you have to
>buy at least a DSL modem for OpenBSD. And since you
>are buying a DSL modem, why not add 20 Euros and
>buy a DSL-router? At leas
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:03:34 +1000, "Rod.. Whitworth"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
>supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
>http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
>whi
On 2005-08-03 03:03, Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
whistles.
Anybody know what, if anything,
Melameth, Daniel D. wrote:
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells
and whistles.
Anybody know what, if an
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:30:25AM +0200, Alexander Farber wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
|
| D-Link can DSL. OpenBSD can not. So you have to
| buy at least a DSL modem for OpenBSD. And since you
| are buying a DSL modem, why not add 20 Euros and
| buy a DSL-rout
Hi,
I have 1 argument for D-Link and against OpenBSD:
D-Link can DSL. OpenBSD can not. So you have to
buy at least a DSL modem for OpenBSD. And since you
are buying a DSL modem, why not add 20 Euros and
buy a DSL-router? At least for a small home network.
Regards
Alex
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 22:54:22 -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 22:09 -0400, Jim Fron wrote:
>> What it does that an OBSD solution can't is be low power, cheap, and
>> bought off the shelf (maybe there are off-the-shelf suppliers of OBSD
>> machines, but they aren't in every str
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
> Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
> supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells
> and whistles.
>
> Anybody know what, if anything, it does tha
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 11:03:34AM +1000, Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
> Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
> supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
> whistles.
>
> A
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 22:09 -0400, Jim Fron wrote:
> What it does that an OBSD solution can't is be low power, cheap, and
> bought off the shelf (maybe there are off-the-shelf suppliers of OBSD
> machines, but they aren't in every strip mall in the country).
To the third of those, I agree. To th
On Aug 2, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
Anybody know what, if anything, it does that an OBSD solution doesn't/
cannot, that may be important?
Or alternatively the reverse.
What it does that an OBSD solution can't is be low power, cheap, and
bought off the shelf (maybe there are
The next firmware or os version may require the purchase of a new
appliance because these upgrades will not support your appliance. On
the other hand, you can bet that a new release of obsd/pf will not
require the purchase of new hardware.
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 08:03 pm, Rod.. Whitworth wro
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
> Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
> supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
> whistles.
The DLink doesn't have failover or load balanci
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:03:34 +1000
"Rod.. Whitworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
> supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
>
* Aaron Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-02 19:01]:
> On 8/2/05, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anybody know what, if anything, it does that an OBSD solution doesn't/
> > cannot, that may be important?
>
> Complete documentation and source code you can not only look at, but
> mod
On 8/2/05, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody know what, if anything, it does that an OBSD solution doesn't/
> cannot, that may be important?
Complete documentation and source code you can not only look at, but
modify if you're so inclined.
aaron.glenn
Somebody sent me a query asking for a justification for my proposal to
supply a firewall/router using OpenBSD when there was thsi device:
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=327 , with all its claimed bells and
whistles.
Anybody know what, if anything, it does that an OBSD solution doesn't/
cannot,
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