Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-01 Thread Charles M. Hannum
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 12:16:59PM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: > From: Charles M. Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:40:01AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: > > > Like, what docs does a vendor engineering division give to the > >

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-01 Thread Charles M. Hannum
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 10:40:01AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: > Like, what docs does a vendor engineering division give to the developers > who write the drivers internally? They don't give them bad docs. They give > them functional, useful docs. Does it need to be stated that any project

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-01 Thread Charles M. Hannum
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 01:08:13AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote: > They don't have to write device drivers at all, they just should > write good documentation. Unfortunately, the "documentation" often isn't so hot either. I'll give you an example. Even with both code and "documentation" from Rea

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Charles M. Hannum
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:44:00PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Andy Ruhl wrote: > >On 8/31/06, Thorsten Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>BSD is about an operating system, not about a kernel. > > > >Bingo. Good point. This point is lost sometimes. > > > >I believe NetBSD has the proper

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Charles M. Hannum
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 12:01:07AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A chicken running around sans head is quite active. > Not really the same thing as productive. What you don't see is that NetBSD is the chicken in your analogy.

The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Charles M. Hannum
The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has gotten to the point that being associated with the project is often more of a liability than an asset. I will attempt to explain how this happened, what the current state of affairs is, and what needs to be done to attempt to fi