Re: unnecessary quotes in .Nd lines

2013-08-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 05:30:37PM +0059, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:05:14PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > > Some manpages use one-line descriptions such as > > > > .Nd "VAX console interface" > > > > The double quotes, if I am not mistaken, are unnecessary; > > the diff b

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Marian Hettwer | wrote: | > Hi Loic, | > | > | > Am 13.08.13 15:43, schrieb � Blot: | > | >> Hello Marian, | >> i think you are right, because bsd.rd is required for last chance | >> to | >> repair system, among others. | >> | > | > r

Use .Bx instead of BSD in manpages

2013-08-13 Thread Jan Stary
The diff below replaces the occurences of "BSD" in the manpages with the .Bx macro where appropriate. (Some might be overkill though.) Specifically, it does not put .Bx inside .%T lines and the like, e.g. ".%T Design and Implementation of 4.4 BSD", as discussed off-list with jmc@ The following fi

Re: ABI break - a question

2013-08-13 Thread Stefan Wollny
Hi Janne! Am 13.08.2013 15:35 schrieb Janne Johansson: I don't think the upgrade will mess with files in /root ever, so it should be as safe as /home/other-user. Yes, I agree - but my question relates to a "fresh install" of the system. If you install-and-wipe-your-disks-accidentally I'd t

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello James, you are right users may have choice. I'm working to build a distrib for pxebooting (pxeboot + bsd.rd generation). After i will try to implement those patches, which are very interesting for OpenBSD http://nbender.com/install.netboot/netboot.diff I only think we musnt't download a scrip

Re: ESI Julia XTe soundcard

2013-08-13 Thread Konstantin Dimitrov
ESI Julia XTe places Envy24HT-S on PCIe via TENOR TE7009 PCI-to-PCIe bridge, which is transparent bridge. so, it should work right away, because PCIe-to-PCI conversion is entirely transparent from audio driver point of view - it will be recognized by the driver as ESI Julia on PCI, i.e. exactly lik

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello Don, I haven't any problem with iPXE (used on my libvirt/KVM hypervisor). Yesterday i have booted on a pxelinux which chainload a OpenBSD pxeboot.0 (because i have made a menu for tests to choose automated debian install or OpenBSD. I will look at Nick's word tonight, but i think it's one ve

ESI Julia XTe soundcard

2013-08-13 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
Hi, According to the envy(4) manpage the ESI Julia is supported. Is the ESI Julia XTe [1], which is the PCIe version of the Julia, known or expected to work? Kind regards, Martijn Rijkeboer [1] http://www.esi-audio.com/products/juliaxte/

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Marian Hettwer
Am 13.08.2013 um 19:08 schrieb Johan Beisser : > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Marian Hettwer wrote: >> Hi Loic, >> >> >> Am 13.08.13 15:43, schrieb � Blot: > >> >> PS.: personal opinion: I like FAI (www.fai.org) much more then debians >> preseed.cfg... check it out ;) > > http://fai-proj

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Johan Beisser
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Marian Hettwer wrote: > Hi Loic, > > > Am 13.08.13 15:43, schrieb � Blot: > >> Hello Marian, >> i think you are right, because bsd.rd is required for last chance to >> repair system, among others. >> > > right. And I'd like to leave it untouched. This hopefully als

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Don Jackson
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Marian Hettwer wrote: > > I believe it's save to assume that a DHCP server is around, since this one is needed anyways to pxeboot the box. > So after the boot of our netboot.rd kernel, we need to figure out which interface was used for pxe config and then do a dhclient

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi Loic, Am 13.08.13 15:43, schrieb � Blot: Hello Marian, i think you are right, because bsd.rd is required for last chance to repair system, among others. right. And I'd like to leave it untouched. This hopefully also increases the possibility that whatever we come up with might get added

Re: unnecessary quotes in .Nd lines

2013-08-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 06:37:48PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > On Aug 13 17:30:37, j...@kerhand.co.uk wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:05:14PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > > > Some manpages use one-line descriptions such as > > > > > > .Nd "VAX console interface" > > > > > > The double quotes,

Re: unnecessary quotes in .Nd lines

2013-08-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Aug 13 17:30:37, j...@kerhand.co.uk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:05:14PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > > Some manpages use one-line descriptions such as > > > > .Nd "VAX console interface" > > > > The double quotes, if I am not mistaken, are unnecessary; > > the diff below removes them

Re: unnecessary quotes in .Nd lines

2013-08-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:05:14PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > Some manpages use one-line descriptions such as > > .Nd "VAX console interface" > > The double quotes, if I am not mistaken, are unnecessary; > the diff below removes them throughout the tree. > (Were these required at some point

Re: infnan.3 not installed

2013-08-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 06:13:25PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > We have /usr/src/lib/libm/man/infnan.3 > but infnan(3) doesn't seem to be installed > on any system I looked at. Is that intended? > > Jan > man -k should give you a clue... jmc

infnan.3 not installed

2013-08-13 Thread Jan Stary
We have /usr/src/lib/libm/man/infnan.3 but infnan(3) doesn't seem to be installed on any system I looked at. Is that intended? Jan

Re: remove .Tn abuse

2013-08-13 Thread Jan Stary
This diff removes .Tn abuse from usr.sbin - more to come. I am not sure about /usr/src/usr.sbin/dev_mkdb/dev_mkdb.8 where I removed the .Tn's from Keys are a structure containing a .Tn mode_t followed by a .Tn dev_t , (as these are clearly not "tradenames") - but

remove entry from spamdb greylist

2013-08-13 Thread ML mail
Hello, I am using spamd in greylisting mode and would like to delete the following entry: GREY|207.126.144.121|eu1sys200aog106.obsmtp.com|||1376398715|1376400232|1376413115|4|0 I tried the following command: spamdb -d 207.126.144.121 Unfortunately it does not remove the entry as it is still

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-13 Thread Evan Root
Extended Backus-Naur Form! That is exactly what I was looking for Andreas. Thank you. I really didn't know what this was called or if there was a formal definition or not. Lol, the wikipedia page says that it does not have a single dialect. The IEEE standard is a good reference for quirks of the

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Nick Bender
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Jiri B wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Peter Hessler wrote: > > On 2013 Aug 13 (Tue) at 14:27:40 +0200 (+0200), Marian Hettwer wrote: > > :Looks like it's time to do this. And maybe I can sync up with some > > :others in this thread and we could

Re: ABI break - a question

2013-08-13 Thread Nick Holland
On 08/13/2013 08:33 AM, Stefan Wollny wrote: Hi there, I usually follow -current installing snapshots as soon as they become available. Being just an ordinary though happy user I know OpenBSD is not for the mindless and carefully check and read (and at least try to understand) what is written o

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Loïc Blot
Hello Marian, i think you are right, because bsd.rd is required for last chance to repair system, among others. My vision is to have a system like we have in debian, i think it's proper. In fact, the problem is not to modify the installer to use the configuration file, it's to setup network automa

Re: ABI break - a question

2013-08-13 Thread Janne Johansson
I don't think the upgrade will mess with files in /root ever, so it should be as safe as /home/other-user. If you install-and-wipe-your-disks-accidentally I'd think /home is in the same kind of danger. 2013/8/13 Stefan Wollny > Hi there, > > I usually follow -current installing snapshots as so

Re: npppd sessions log

2013-08-13 Thread Radek
It was my fault. I started "npppd -d" (for test only), so logs went to stdout and there was nothing in /var/log/*. If I start it as a daemon, session logs go to /var/log/daemon and /var/log/messages. >I do accounting, as well as authentication, by help of radius server. VPN with RADIUS - it's

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 01:07:29PM +0100, Andy wrote: > Hi +1 > We need this too! > > We need a fully automated OpenBSD install including partitioning > etc, as we need to do installs on sites where an engineer cannot go > (cheaply). Hi. In the company I work for (M:Tier), we do fully automated

Re: npppd sessions log

2013-08-13 Thread Marko Cupać
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:24:49 +0200 Radek wrote: > Hi @misc, > > I can't find any way/option to log npppd sessions on a VPN gateway. > What I need to log: > - username > - user's source_IP > - user's VPN_internal_IP > - session start_time > - session end_time I do accounting, as well as authe

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Jiri B
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Peter Hessler wrote: > On 2013 Aug 13 (Tue) at 14:27:40 +0200 (+0200), Marian Hettwer wrote: > :Looks like it's time to do this. And maybe I can sync up with some > :others in this thread and we could work together. > > I'm looking at the diffs originally

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Aug 13 (Tue) at 14:27:40 +0200 (+0200), Marian Hettwer wrote: :Looks like it's time to do this. And maybe I can sync up with some :others in this thread and we could work together. I'm looking at the diffs originally from Nick Bender (links are earlier in the thread), and will try to revie

ABI break - a question

2013-08-13 Thread Stefan Wollny
Hi there,   I usually follow -current installing snapshots as soon as they become available.   Being just an ordinary though happy user I know OpenBSD is not for the mindless and carefully check and read (and at least try to understand) what is written on the wall on openbsd.org/faq/current. The

Re: npppd sessions log

2013-08-13 Thread Vijay Sankar
Quoting Radek : Hi @misc, I can't find any way/option to log npppd sessions on a VPN gateway. What I need to log: - username - user's source_IP - user's VPN_internal_IP - session start_time - session end_time Current npppd sessions I can see via "npppctl session all/brief" but I need a histo

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi Nick, well, obviously you have a different opinion on automated installations. For me it's even crucial with just 10 boxes. I'm taking into account that I want to introduce more OpenBSD installations at work and that I also need to install QA environments. All of our infrastructure (2000+ s

npppd sessions log

2013-08-13 Thread Radek
Hi @misc, I can't find any way/option to log npppd sessions on a VPN gateway. What I need to log: - username - user's source_IP - user's VPN_internal_IP - session start_time - session end_time Current npppd sessions I can see via "npppctl session all/brief" but I need a history log. Thanks f

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Zé Loff
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 07:52:02AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > Lets see. An OpenBSD install takes less than ten minutes (assuming > small file systems. Yes the newfs step can take a while on big file > systems). You can also do several installs at the same time. So you > are trying to save at

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Andy
Hi +1 We need this too! We need a fully automated OpenBSD install including partitioning etc, as we need to do installs on sites where an engineer cannot go (cheaply). I know the dev work is more than 2 hours.. Obviously.. But their are tens of thousands of OpenBSD users with /many/ servers

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Nick Holland
On 08/13/13 07:13, Marian Hettwer wrote: ... > This is sad :-/ For any mass deployment I need this... I was okay > with doing it semi automated for the first three boxes at work. But > nowadays it's 10 boxes and we are going for full automation. Hm > hm... > > Marian > ten boxes. Um. Lets see.

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Marian Hettwer
Am 13.08.2013 um 10:07 schrieb Don Jackson : > Later, Nick did this: > > redux - fully automated OpenBSD installation - hiqu.biz > > We failed to get any sort of buy in to this approach into the main > distribution… > This is sad :-/ For any mass deployment I need this... I was okay with doin

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi loic, Sorry for top posting. I need exactly the same for OpenBSD. Maybe we could work together... In my example all I need on top of it is some same network config and a first puppet run after reboot... But I hesitated to modify bsd.rd... Maybe it's more wise to create a "netboot.rd" and let bs

Re: /etc/mail/spamd.key permissions/ownership?

2013-08-13 Thread Craig R. Skinner
On 2013-08-09 Fri 14:23 PM |, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > > I checked the nearest couple of spamd equipped boxes, and it tends to be > > [Fri Aug 09 14:21:47] peter@skapet:~/www_sider$ ls -l /etc/mail/spamd.key > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2048 Nov 1 2009 /etc/mail/spamd.key > It's been sy

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Don Jackson
On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Loïc BLOT wrote: > 3. What i want is something like this: > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed or this > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5 > /html/Installation_Guide/ch-kickstart2.html > > Then i ask @misc to

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-13 Thread Andres Perera
he's not talking about the source level mandoc/man macros the subject is about the SYNOPSIS section language for utilities e.g. in ``grep [ file ]'' the [ ] operator signifies 0 or 1 in ``rm file...'' the ... operator signifies 1 or more On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Jan Stary wrote: >> O

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-13 Thread Jiri B
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 03:31:44PM -0400, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:59:27PM +0200, Lo?c BLOT wrote: > > Hello @misc. > > > > Today i'm working on automated deploy with PXE. I have successful found > > and made automated PXE install on Debian with pxelinux. > > > The

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-13 Thread Jan Stary
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > > Evan Root writes: > > > Hello Misc, > > > I tried man 5 man for an explanation of the synopsis section of the man > > > page and it says there isn't a manual for the file format conventions of > > > manual pages. Sometimes I have dif

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-13 Thread Alexander Hall
On 08/13/13 08:52, David Coppa wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Alexander Hall > wrote: >> On 08/12/13 18:49, Peter Hessler wrote: >>> this isn't a lesser operating system. all such drivers are >>> included out of the box. >>> >>> the only thing that may be missing, is the various firmw

Re: Bind with GSSAPI

2013-08-13 Thread Remco
Jeff Powell wrote: > I've been tearing my hair out trying to get this to work. I'm running > OpenBSD 5.3 x64 and I'm trying to build isc-bind from ports using the > -with-gssapi in the Makefile (I want to have the -g option in nsupdate so > I can use iscp-dhcp to register dynamic DNS updates aga