Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:13:33AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: | On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 07:39:27AM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote: | | > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 01:34:44AM -0300, Carlo Borelli wrote: | > | > If you claim to be a unix administrator, learn ed. | > | > | > | | > | Sorry, completely wro

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Christopher Vance
You would fail any system administration course I teach. On 12/01/2013, at 15:34, Carlo Borelli wrote: > 2013/1/12 Nick Holland > >> On 01/11/13 16:38, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: >> ... >>> Btw, how many are really using ed everyday, now in 2013? I believe I'm >> not >>> the only one who thinks th

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 07:39:27AM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote: > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 01:34:44AM -0300, Carlo Borelli wrote: > | > If you claim to be a unix administrator, learn ed. > | > > | > | Sorry, completely wrong. An unix admin use only vi not wordstar or ed. > > You know vi but you do

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 01:34:44AM -0300, Carlo Borelli wrote: | > If you claim to be a unix administrator, learn ed. | > | | Sorry, completely wrong. An unix admin use only vi not wordstar or ed. You know vi but you don't know ed. Right. Know your software and its history - vi is ed with visua

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Carlo Borelli
2013/1/12 Christopher Vance > You would fail any system administration course I teach. > I respect your opinion. Are you a teacher and not teaching the basic ones? Proudly failing any course you do. What else? Btw, Paolo Aglialoro +1 Registered Linux User #249354 "Ad astra per aspera"

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Carlo Borelli
2013/1/12 Nick Holland > On 01/11/13 16:38, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > ... > > Btw, how many are really using ed everyday, now in 2013? I believe I'm > not > > the only one who thinks this. My guess is that vi could be more > appreciated > > by most of the user base more than ed. > > If you claim t

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Nick Holland
On 01/11/13 16:38, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: ... > Btw, how many are really using ed everyday, now in 2013? I believe I'm not > the only one who thinks this. My guess is that vi could be more appreciated > by most of the user base more than ed. If you claim to be a unix administrator, learn ed. If y

ImageMagick and perl

2013-01-11 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Hello! I was trying to build a piece of software that uses Image::Magick, when I ran into the following problem on amd64 -current: $ perl -e "use Image::Magick;" Can't load '/usr/local/libdata/perl5/site_perl/amd64-openbsd/auto/Image/Magick/Magick.so' for module Image::Magick: Cannot load s

Re: Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-11 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 04:44:07PM -0800, Kent Fritz wrote: > I dug a little deeper, and defined PCKBCDEBUG in > /usr/src/sys/dev/ic/pckbc.c, and it spews: > pckbc_cmd: lost 0xfc > > Looking at pckbc_poll_cmd1, it looks like there's an infinite loop if > it doesn't get back a response it expects.

Re: Use pax instead of cpio in FAQ 14.4 (Adding extra disks)

2013-01-11 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Jeremy Evans wrote: > 1) Switch from cpio -pdum to pax -rw -p e. Seems fine to me. > I'm not sure if there are other reasons to use cpio over pax. Nope. On OpenBSD, tar/cpio/pax are all frontends to the same program anyway. > However, when I replaced I disk last night and tried to use cpio >

Re: Unused swap

2013-01-11 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > plus, last i checked, firefox was not even 64-bit friendly anyways Bullshit. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-11 Thread Kent Fritz
I dug a little deeper, and defined PCKBCDEBUG in /usr/src/sys/dev/ic/pckbc.c, and it spews: pckbc_cmd: lost 0xfc Looking at pckbc_poll_cmd1, it looks like there's an infinite loop if it doesn't get back a response it expects. What's best: specifically handling 0xfc, or erroring out on any unexpec

Re: Unused swap

2013-01-11 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/login.conf.in http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/mklogin.conf http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=login.conf&sektion=5 plus, last i checked, firefox was not even 64-bit friendly anyways C. On 11 January 2013 15:28, Lars von den Dr

Re: Unused swap

2013-01-11 Thread Lars von den Driesch
Hi again, I just followed the FAQ 14.5.3 and created a swap file and added it to the system. Unfortunately this didn't help. Thanks again Lars On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Lars von den Driesch wrote: > Hi > I just discovered another strangeness on my installation. Firefox > keeps seg-faul

Re: vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Miod Vallat
> The only editing available tool in bsd.rd, the infamous ed, made me sweat > cold with fear not to correctly spell its syntax or do some logic mistake. > I would have been way more lighthearted if I had vi available. Actually, vi used to be in the installation media, 15 years ago. Lack of space c

vi vs ed in bsd.rd - proposal

2013-01-11 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Hello misc, there were recently some comments about customizing bsd.rd contents and making one of own's choice/taste. This reminded me about an unpleasant situation in which I found myself kinda 2 years ago: sparc64 machine, a neglected typo in fstab while changing a disk mountpoint and boom! - n

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Zoran Kolic [zko...@sbb.rs] wrote: > > Yeah, I like amd better. On desktop it is 8120 bulldozer. And I > like it. > > I might bother gentle readers, but have no clue what to buy and > stay alive. I need exact processor name. So, if someone has amd > or intel, integrated, wirking on amd64 5.2, ple

Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-11 Thread Patrick Wildt
Hello, I'm currently working on porting OpenBSD to the Freescale i.MX6, an ARM Cortex-A9 (1-4 cores). It is already supporting USB and SDMMC, works like a charm. The i.MX6 itself got some interesting features like PCIe, SATA and Gigabit Ethernet. So, if 200$ don't sound too much, that might be an

Use pax instead of cpio in FAQ 14.4 (Adding extra disks)

2013-01-11 Thread Jeremy Evans
Two changes: 1) Switch from cpio -pdum to pax -rw -p e. cpio -pdum requires find which isn't available on bsd.rd, while pax -rw -p e works fine on bsd.rd. 2) Use a more complete example. I'm not sure if there are other reasons to use cpio over pax. However, when I replaced I disk last night and

Re: Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-11 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 01:16:53PM +0100, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > On 10/01/13(Thu) 14:08, Kent Fritz wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > > Can you please try to find out which protocol probe routine is > > > responsible for hanging the machine? > > > > > None of

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Zoran Kolic
> Sadly right now Intel is going to be the best if you are going to use > the integrated graphics. Intel graphics tend to be better supported than > AMD (ATI). I already have freebsd desktop and laptop. I want to get small box, to put it in a corner, left in my room and play with it. The only sm

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Jason Barbier
On 1/10/2013 7:15 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: I found it too hard to find proper laptop for sane sum of green papers, to run openbsd amd64. In a haze of quest, I set my eyes on two lovely comp cases: chieftec bt-02b-180 silverstone sg05 Digested question would be: what integrated cpu works on 5.2 amd6

Re: msi_delroute() panic

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Miller
I can try. Theo also sent me some ideas to try which involved cutting out PCI Express hotplug support from sys/dev/pci/ppb.c Do you have reason to believe this has been fixed? -Jim On 1/11/13 8:25 AM, Sebastian Benoit wrote: > Jim Miller(jmil...@sri-inc.com) on 2013.01.09 15:20:03 -0500: >> Hi

Re: new computer

2013-01-11 Thread john slee
On 10 January 2013 22:21, Matt Morrow wrote: > You do realize the typical life of a battery is about a year? Poppycock. My FondletopPro battery still gives damn close to the performance it gave new in early 2011. The battery in my Fondleslab 3GS is near 4 years now and hasn't degraded that muc

Re: PF filtering on MAC address

2013-01-11 Thread Alexey E. Suslikov
Erling Westenvik gmail.com> writes: > > Is it possible to have PF filter on MAC address on a machine with only > one physical nic? I'm aware that MAC filtering can only be done on a > machine configured as a bridge, but how to configure such a bridge? afaik, bridge(4) mac filtering only affects

Re: Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 10/01/13(Thu) 14:08, Kent Fritz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > Can you please try to find out which protocol probe routine is > > responsible for hanging the machine? > > > None of them. I tried as you suggested, then just #if'd out every > entry in that