Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Super Biscuit
+1 --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Theo de Raadt wrote: From: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: "Nicholas Marriott" Cc: "Thomas de Grivel" , "Christiano F. Haesbaert" , "misc@openbsd.org" Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011,

Re: USB Webcam

2011-06-07 Thread Nick Coleman
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:59:45 -0400 Ted Unangst wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Nick Coleman > wrote: > > I would like to get a USB webcam working on my PowerPC OpenBSD 4.9 > > install. I'm an OpenBSD newbie. > > > > When I plug it in, the kernel registers the USB device, but doesn't >

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Re: USB Webcam

2011-06-07 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:51:35AM +0800, Nick Coleman wrote: > I would like to get a USB webcam working on my PowerPC OpenBSD 4.9 > install. I'm an OpenBSD newbie. > > When I plug it in, the kernel registers the USB device, but doesn't > go any further to recognise it as a video device. The las

Re: Need some input about: OpenBSD 4.9/amd64 and Dell PowerEdge Server R210,R410,R610,R710

2011-06-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Have you ever tried to install OpenBSD 4.9/amd64 on the Dell > PowerEdge Server > R210,R410,R610,R710 (2.5" SAS Disk) with additional Intel. > Gigabit ET Quad Port > Server Adapter? If yes, are those servers fully > compatible with OpenBSD > 4.9/amd64? The OpenBSD/amd64 release was built on a

Need some input about: OpenBSD 4.9/amd64 and Dell PowerEdge Server R210,R410,R610,R710

2011-06-07 Thread Stefan N
Hi All, Have you ever tried to install OpenBSD 4.9/amd64 on the Dell PowerEdge Server R210,R410,R610,R710 (2.5" SAS Disk) with additional Intel. Gigabit ET Quad Port Server Adapter? If yes, are those servers fully compatible with OpenBSD 4.9/amd64? Regards, Stefan

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
> You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is > not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a > lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with > it. C is not the best here but it is way ahead of any kind of useless > functional l

Re: USB Webcam

2011-06-07 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Nick Coleman wrote: > I would like to get a USB webcam working on my PowerPC OpenBSD 4.9 > install. I'm an OpenBSD newbie. > > When I plug it in, the kernel registers the USB device, but doesn't > go any further to recognise it as a video device. The last line >

USB Webcam

2011-06-07 Thread Nick Coleman
I would like to get a USB webcam working on my PowerPC OpenBSD 4.9 install. I'm an OpenBSD newbie. When I plug it in, the kernel registers the USB device, but doesn't go any further to recognise it as a video device. The last line of dmesg is: ugen1 at uhub1 port 1 "Vimicro Corp. PC Camera" rev

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Jun 7, 2011, at 19:46, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is > not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a > lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with > it. C is not the best here but

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Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Nicholas Marriott
You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with it. C is not the best here but it is way ahead of any kind of useless functional language.

Re: OT: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grivel
This really has nothing to do on this list, but here I go... Languages are like gods : there can be only one, and its perfect, and everywhere, and we show our faith. Sure.. who wants to believe that crap ? Languages have flaws, they are (slightly) bugged to the core and we're so much into their us

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Re: OffTopic: ctags and vi (Don't read if you dislike offtopic)

2011-06-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
Ctrl-t On Jun 7, 2011, at 18:41, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Dear list users, > > using "vi" to go from a funciont call to the function definition is > just hit "ctrl ]". > What should i press to get back to the point i left with "ctrl ]" ? > > Thanks in advance. > > Fried

Re: OffTopic: ctags and vi (Don't read if you dislike offtopic)

2011-06-07 Thread Matthew Weigel
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 20:41:22 -0300, Friedrich Locke wrote: Dear list users, using "vi" to go from a funciont call to the function definition is just hit "ctrl ]". What should i press to get back to the point i left with "ctrl ]" ? According vi(1), Return to the most recent t

OffTopic: ctags and vi (Don't read if you dislike offtopic)

2011-06-07 Thread Friedrich Locke
Dear list users, using "vi" to go from a funciont call to the function definition is just hit "ctrl ]". What should i press to get back to the point i left with "ctrl ]" ? Thanks in advance. Fried

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Fixing pkg_add "Fatal error: can't parse object version" error after 4.9 upgrade

2011-06-07 Thread yary
Hi, I saw another message about getting a perl error 'Fatal error: can't parse object version..." after an upgrade to 4.9, and have a fix and an explanation. Fix: add this line: no lib qw(/usr/local/libdata/perl5 /usr/local/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.12.2 /usr/local/libdata/perl5/site_perl

Re: What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:14 -0600 Mark Solocinski wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:56:44 +0200, Benjamin Nadland wrote: > > I got a cheap VPS without out-of-band access (only ssh or similar) > > and wanted to install OpenBSD on it. > > > > You could save yourself the hassle and go with RootBSD.

Re: What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Amit Kulkarni
> The general trick is get the first OpenBSD install in place. After that, > you can do almost anything you want afterwards. It may be tricky, you may > end up making a stupid error that causes you to "lose" the system, but in > theory, you can do almost anything. :) > > So.. use yaifo with whate

Re: What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Nick Holland
On 06/07/2011 09:56 AM, Benjamin Nadland wrote: I got a cheap VPS without out-of-band access (only ssh or similar) and wanted to install OpenBSD on it. According to the archives yaifo would be an option in this case, but the last version seems to be a year old and doesn't compile for me (with 4.

Re: What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Solocinski
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:56:44 +0200, Benjamin Nadland wrote: I got a cheap VPS without out-of-band access (only ssh or similar) and wanted to install OpenBSD on it. You could save yourself the hassle and go with RootBSD. They advertise as a FreeBSD VPS provider but will put the latest OpenBSD r

Re: Sun Blade 1500 (non-Silver) OBP

2011-06-07 Thread Bjorn
Bjorn gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > I recently got a Sun Blade 1500 Red at an eBay auction. > I have a Sun Type 7 keyboard which won't work on this old OBP (4.9.5), > and have read that it should work with later versions. Hi all, I was helped with what I needed. Thanks guys :) Bjorn

Re: Flag to move isakmpd default keys dir?

2011-06-07 Thread Rodolfo Gouveia
On 06/05/2011 02:37 AM, Paul Suh wrote: > Folks, > > I've been working with the flashrd system for booting from compact flash > media, and ran across a case where I'd like to make some changes to isakmpd, > but before I do so I'm not sure that it's a good idea. > > The location for certificates,

Re: What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:56:44 +0200 Benjamin Nadland wrote: > I got a cheap VPS without out-of-band access (only ssh or similar) > and wanted to install OpenBSD on it. > > According to the archives yaifo would be an option in this case, > but the last version seems to be a year old and doesn't comp

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:19:11AM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: > > [...] > > Now, think again, parsing a language is nice, but it's almost never > the most important thing. > You also should not try to convert old school unix hackers into > lispers, there may be rape. > s/may be/will b

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 7 June 2011 07:08, Thomas de Grivel wrote: > Before even thinking of "fixing it" i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my > quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given > the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic. > Please, C is very f

Re: OpebBSD 4.9 and Intel 82579LM support

2011-06-07 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:31:25PM +0200, Matthias Cramer wrote: > Hi > > I've setup a new SuperMicro Server with a Intel 82574L and a Intel > 82579LM Gigabit NIC. The 82574L get's recognised with no problems as > em0. The 82579LM does not show up anywhere. As I found out this is a > fairly new ch

Re: OpebBSD 4.9 and Intel 82579LM support

2011-06-07 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:31:25PM +0200, Matthias Cramer wrote: > Hi > > I've setup a new SuperMicro Server with a Intel 82574L and a Intel > 82579LM Gigabit NIC. The 82574L get's recognised with no problems as > em0. The 82579LM does not show up anywhere. As I found out this is a > fairly new ch

What are remote install options on a cheap vps?

2011-06-07 Thread Benjamin Nadland
I got a cheap VPS without out-of-band access (only ssh or similar) and wanted to install OpenBSD on it. According to the archives yaifo would be an option in this case, but the last version seems to be a year old and doesn't compile for me (with 4.8-release). The yaifo mailing list seems discontin

Actualización TOTAL de Adquisiciones, Nuevo Reglamento y Manual de Aplicación

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OpebBSD 4.9 and Intel 82579LM support

2011-06-07 Thread Matthias Cramer
Hi I've setup a new SuperMicro Server with a Intel 82574L and a Intel 82579LM Gigabit NIC. The 82574L get's recognised with no problems as em0. The 82579LM does not show up anywhere. As I found out this is a fairly new chipset. Is there already support for this chipset or will there be soon ? Re

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Ariane van der Steldt
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:08:26PM +0200, Thomas de Grivel wrote: > Before even thinking of "fixing it" i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my > quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given > the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic. I

OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grivel
Before even thinking of "fixing it" i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic. Now if you want to know what code I'm writing, first I'm writing english b

Re: i386 softraid crypto panic

2011-06-07 Thread Manuel Giraud
Matthew Dempsky writes: > That line is from my softraid scsibus diff, which was included in the > Jun 5 snapshots. There was a bug where it didn't properly unwind a > failed BIOCCREATERAID attempt. Ok, it works now with a more recent snapshot. I thought it could be one of those FBI patches. Tha

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Re: PF with gigabit voice/video streams

2011-06-07 Thread Gabriel Linder
On 06/03/11 20:48, Eric K. Miller wrote: I might start a capabilities war, but we've seen OpenBSD become CPU bound with about 150k packets per second with some pretty fast hardware. Funny, I have more than 300kpps. With pf enabled, of course. This is without PF running. I'm sure there are a

Re: OpenBSD crash (tomcat + subsonic possibly)

2011-06-07 Thread Michael Sioutis
dmesg - 3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,xTPR real mem = 2146988032 (2047MB) avail mem = 2101702656 (2004MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/02/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdaf0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0630 (24 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "Version 07.00T