Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Theo de Raadt schrieb: Hi Theo, > I hope that nothing I ever say holds back our developers or community > from doing what is right. I did not realize that the GNU and Linux > kernel hackers were such dutiful slaves. Well yeah, the system is called capitalism and many hackers behave like slaves i

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Greg Thomas
"What a load of crap. You don't know what you are talking about. Everything else you said is exactly the same blathering; you are trying to say happy Linux things but there are no facts to support that the Linux crew or FSF has done ANYTHING which has gotten documentation for hardware out there.

Re: rpc.lockd doesn't build in current

2008-06-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
You must not be following the right build process, described in /usr/src/Makefile Other build mechanisms won't do the right thing. Trust me; I do more than a handful of builds a day... > I am having a problem building current today also where it stops on > rpc.lockd, except my error messages are

Re: rpc.lockd doesn't build in current

2008-06-26 Thread Rob Lytle
Hi, I am having a problem building current today also where it stops on rpc.lockd, except my error messages are different. Arghh, right at the end of the build process. Any help appreciated. Rob Here are the error messages: *===> usr.sbin/rpc.lockd cc -O2 -pipe -I. -DSYSLOG -c nlm_prot_svc

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Lars NoodC)n schrieb: > > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > > > > http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it > > was the St

Temmuz Egitim Takvimi

2008-06-26 Thread Bulten Takvim
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Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Lars NoodC)n schrieb: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > > http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it > was the Stop-the-Blob camp

Re: OpenSSH port forwarding

2008-06-26 Thread raven
Thanks so much TeXitoi TeXitoi ha scritto: raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi guys, i have this net topology: MAN [LOCAL_MACHINE] <--->[GATEWAY]<>INTERNET<--> [My EXTERNAL SERVER] So, i want to connect into my localmachine using ss

Re: OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread raven
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 03:37:50PM -0400, Jim Razmus wrote: > * Jim Razmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080626 15:36]: > > * raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080626 12:31]: > > > Christophe Rioux ha scritto: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I googled many hours to find out that some people did the following > > >> co

Re: Sendmail question

2008-06-26 Thread Steve Shockley
Olivier Cherrier wrote: You may need a milter. There is one which fits in ports (milter-regex). Scanning email bodies will impact performances. Thanks for the reply. I wound up using milter-regex to quarantine the messages that match my criteria, use qtool.pl to move the quarantined messages

Re: Sendmail question

2008-06-26 Thread Olivier Cherrier
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 09:20:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have an OpenBSD machine that will handle outbound mail using Sendmail. > I'd like Sendmail to scan the messages, and any messages with a certain > word in the subject will be sent to a specific server instead of the > Interne

Re: OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread Marti Martinez
Yeah, you're going to have to stick with qemu; VMware is Windows/Linux/Mac only. I vaguely seem to recall some chatter about getting xen working with an OpenBSD dom0, but I don't think that was ever completed. But if someone has heard differently, then please enlighten us! On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at

Re: OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread Jim Razmus
* Jim Razmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080626 15:36]: > * raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080626 12:31]: > > Christophe Rioux ha scritto: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I googled many hours to find out that some people did the following > >> configuration: > >> > >> * OpenBSD as Host (last version if possible) > >> *

Re: OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread Jim Razmus
* raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080626 12:31]: > Christophe Rioux ha scritto: >> Hello, >> >> I googled many hours to find out that some people did the following >> configuration: >> >> * OpenBSD as Host (last version if possible) >> * VMWare server installed (VMWare server 1.0.4 -> 1.0.6 if possible)

Re: Hardening OpenBSD: BSD file flags questions (flags vs. mount)

2008-06-26 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 07:35:40PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I try to get a better understanding of hardening OpenBSD > systems and have been digging man pages, several books (incl. > "The design and implementation of the 4.4BSD operating system") > and the archives (but not the sources due

Re: Hardening OpenBSD: BSD file flags questions (flags vs. mount)

2008-06-26 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Why do flags not prevent the mount system call from using > protected directories as mount points? > > I would guess that flags just "protect at inode level" while > mount "happens at vnode level". Exactly. > I am just wondering w

Re: OpenSSH port forwarding

2008-06-26 Thread TeXitoi
raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi guys, i have this net topology: > > > MAN > [LOCAL_MACHINE] <--->[GATEWAY]<>INTERNET<--> [My > EXTERNAL SERVER] > > So, i want to connect into my localmachine using ssh port forwarding > on My EXTERNAL

Hardening OpenBSD: BSD file flags questions (flags vs. mount)

2008-06-26 Thread flags-question
I try to get a better understanding of hardening OpenBSD systems and have been digging man pages, several books (incl. "The design and implementation of the 4.4BSD operating system") and the archives (but not the sources due to my lack of real C knowledge). I could not find any answers regarding t

scsi disk i/o hanging 4.3 system

2008-06-26 Thread Rick Aliwalas
I've duplicated this problem on (2) different Dell 1750's (dmesg below) running 4.3-RELEASE. Also tried the latest 4.3 snap with the same result. The system installs and runs fine on sd0. The data I need to restore is on sd1h. If I mount /dev/sd1h and cp or tar the data from sd1 to a file syst

OpenSSH port forwarding

2008-06-26 Thread raven
Hi guys, i have this net topology: MAN [LOCAL_MACHINE] <--->[GATEWAY]<>INTERNET<--> [My EXTERNAL SERVER] So, i want to connect into my localmachine using ssh port forwarding on My EXTERNAL SERVER. Ofcourse the Gat

Re: OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread raven
Christophe Rioux ha scritto: Hello, I googled many hours to find out that some people did the following configuration: * OpenBSD as Host (last version if possible) * VMWare server installed (VMWare server 1.0.4 -> 1.0.6 if possible) - Linux Virtual Server - Windows Virtuel Serve

Re: Resume - Mumps Developer

2008-06-26 Thread Eric Furman
Who cares? Can we please kill this thread? Unless someone has something actually funny to add. :)

Re: Resume - Mumps Developer

2008-06-26 Thread Dag Richards
Lars NoodC)n wrote: Matt Bettinger wrote: Yes. I have a buddy who works with it and Cache`(Multi-Value DB I believe) on VMS in Houston Medical Center. They manage their prescriptions with it. He also makes very good $$ but talk about getting pigeon holed. There is a port Maverick on Freebsd ,

OpenBSD as host for VMWare Server

2008-06-26 Thread Christophe Rioux
Hello, I googled many hours to find out that some people did the following configuration: * OpenBSD as Host (last version if possible) * VMWare server installed (VMWare server 1.0.4 -> 1.0.6 if possible) - Linux Virtual Server - Windows Virtuel Server But I didn't find any recent

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Martin Schrvder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/26 Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more > recognition: > > > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > > > As the article points out, better late t

Re: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

2008-06-26 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Amarendra Godbole < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > It would be a pleasure meeting folks on this mailing list, including > OBSD developers' at BH or DefCon. Thanks. > > [snip] I look at "Intel firmware", and i go "oh." "BLOB." ;) -jf -- In the meantime, he

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-26, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: >> >>http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob >> >> As the article points out, better late than never. >> >> Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look

Re: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

2008-06-26 Thread Ryan McBride
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 09:37:28AM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: > It would be a pleasure meeting folks on this mailing list, including > OBSD developers' at BH or DefCon. Thanks. The great majority of OpenBSD developers are from outside the United States, and I would guess that most of us prefe

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob As the article points out, better late than never. Though OpenBSD had been on

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Lars Noodén
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > sorry - the final nudge to do what exactly? Get off my backside and try working with OpenBSD. -Lars

Re: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

2008-06-26 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 07:34, Thu 26 Jun 08, Curt Micol wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Amarendra Godbole > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is generally said that the BH or DefCon wireless network is > > "hostile", and sane individuals must not use their laptop for the risk > > of being compromised. My qu

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. > > Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things t

Re: Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/6/26 Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: > >http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob > > As the article points out, better late than never. GPL'd drivers don't help much; some argue that they are part of the problem. ht

Continuation of OpenBSD's Stop the Blob

2008-06-26 Thread Lars Noodén
It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition: http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob As the article points out, better late than never. Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it was the Stop-the-Blob campaign that provided for me the fin

Re: Resume - Mumps Developer

2008-06-26 Thread Lars Noodén
Matt Bettinger wrote: > Yes. I have a buddy who works with it and Cache`(Multi-Value DB I > believe) on VMS in Houston Medical Center. They manage their > prescriptions with it. He also makes very good $$ but talk about > getting pigeon holed. There is a port Maverick on Freebsd , maybe > openbsd

Re: Failing to install packages with $PKG_PATH

2008-06-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:34:33PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 06:56:00PM -0300, Daniel B. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've updated to the today -current and I can't install packages as I > > usually do. > > > > # export > > PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots

Re: Resume - Mumps Developer

2008-06-26 Thread Matt Bettinger
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Martin Schrvder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/26 bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> That mumps? Man, I've heard some pretty horrible things about it. >> Apparently not to be touched with a 10' pole. > > It's incredibly fast and lives on as Cachi. > Yes. I have a

Re: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

2008-06-26 Thread Curt Micol
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Amarendra Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is generally said that the BH or DefCon wireless network is > "hostile", and sane individuals must not use their laptop for the risk > of being compromised. My question is: if I use OpenBSD -current, with > not much

X get killed if there is not enought memory...?

2008-06-26 Thread Sebastian Rother
Hello everybody, I face a problem wich I would consider to be a Bug. I have a Box wich has 2GB of RAM and downloads offen something via torrents. Like Gentoo-Beta2 DVD, OpenBSD torrents and co. I use rtorrent for this task. What's the issue? X gets terminated if I download something if I switch

Re: carp / routing question (multiple lines)

2008-06-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-26, openbsd misc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - how must I read the route-to / reply-to syntax? > for example: > pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any Outbound packet -> normal routing table lookup based on the *destination* address -> if the routing tab

Re: Resume - Mumps Developer

2008-06-26 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/6/26 bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That mumps? Man, I've heard some pretty horrible things about it. > Apparently not to be touched with a 10' pole. It's incredibly fast and lives on as Cachi. Best Martin

Re: DRI/DRM with I810 in 4.3-stable - does it work?

2008-06-26 Thread Dmitrij Czarkoff
Sorry for being late, but I could You please tell, what cards do have any degree of DRI support under OpenBSD -current? In mail list I only noticed Intel, and nothing useful on the Net.