On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:16:27AM -0600, the unit calling itself Matthew
Weigel wrote:
> J Moore wrote:
>
> >You may be correct about constructive answers. Wrt the choice of a POP3
> >server,
>
> You should probably look to
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=popa3d first.
Yep -
Thank you to Otto, Ted and Joachim for your answers and time.
It confirmed most of my thinking and I was happy to see different point
of view on the subject. So, I can spend my money a bit more wisely, or
pretend to anyway! (:>
Thanks
Daniel
J Moore wrote:
You may be correct about constructive answers. Wrt the choice of a POP3
server,
You should probably look to
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=popa3d first.
--
Matthew Weigel
Hi all
Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the
difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros & cons
for each.
Pointers to literature comparisons on the net requested...wherever
someone knows...wasn't able to find anything worthwhile on Google. Help
ple
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:39:50AM -0500, the unit calling itself Pierre Lamy
wrote:
> The problem is that a non-MTA is trying to write something to /var/mail,
> which is bad.
>
> The OpenBSD developers can't account for every third party's wierd way
> of doing things; you did the right thing b
The problem is that a non-MTA is trying to write something to /var/mail,
which is bad.
The OpenBSD developers can't account for every third party's wierd way
of doing things; you did the right thing by mailing the developer, but
if they can't help you maybe you should switch to a different pop3
On 11/26/05, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't presume to speak for Mr. Holland, of course. But I've raised
> the pdf issue here a couple of times lately. I *don't* hate pdf. What I
> object to is inapproriate use. Why the hell would you type out a text
> document and then m
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Let me see if I've got this straight:
>
> I don't see any point. You just don't understand anything.
> So why should I bother explaining anything to you.
Yet another usefull adition to the mailinglist-archives.
# Han
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 07:53:22PM -0700, the unit calling itself Theo de Raadt
wrote:
> > Let me see if I've got this straight:
>
> I don't see any point. You just don't understand anything.
> So why should I bother explaining anything to you.
>
no reason, I guess... but thanks for your valuab
Hi,
I've tried with the 3 floppy : it hangs in a different way. It stay on
pckbd and after a few seconds, reboot. I've upgrade the MM firmware to
his latest version. Don't help anymore. Maybe a BIOS upgrade ? Did you
tweak your BIOS to make it work ?
Best regards,
Bruno.
On 11/18/05, Volker
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:16:17 -0700
Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake:
> frantisek holop wrote:
>
> >Nick's hate against pdf clouds his reason apparently.
> >pdf is a perfect format for technical documentation and
> >papers. go and shout at people who publish their paper
> >in .ps and .pd
frantisek holop wrote:
Nick's hate against pdf clouds his reason apparently.
pdf is a perfect format for technical documentation and
papers. go and shout at people who publish their paper
in .ps and .pdf . having said that i don't agree with
publishing _only_ in .pdf . all the formats have the
Replying to my own message from 20051120 :
Hello misc,
I recently installed 3.8 on a system using two FA310TX NICs (dmesg to
follow with more information on the system). Every 2-3 hours, the
system stops responding over the network. It is headless, so I'm not
sure if the whole system is h
> Let me see if I've got this straight:
I don't see any point. You just don't understand anything.
So why should I bother explaining anything to you.
That's because these are not marked broken. Many people have reported success
with these boards actually.
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:50:37AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> --On 26 November 2005 15:15 -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
>
> >I actually answered an email about something similar a few
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:51:38PM -0700, the unit calling itself Theo de Raadt
wrote:
>> This leads me to a two-part question:
>> 1. Is there an advantage to assigning group ownership of /var/mail to
>> "wheel", or was this choice simply arbitrary?
>>
>> 2. To get akpop3d running should I change
For the record: seems that the Promise ide controller card was junk -
once I pulled it, my problems went away.
Steve Harding wrote:
I have been chasing intermittent problems with my hard disks for a while
now, and have replaced nearly everything, including drives, in an
attempt to fix them. I
Are you subscribed to newbies? We don't do the bullshit like the
HOWTOs or openbsdsupport.org. We teach you how to help yourself. The
answers come with learning, so you can be a better admin.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 00:30:21 -0800
"J.C. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Things like "HowTo" do
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:21:47AM +0100, the unit calling itself frantisek
holop wrote:
> and i have a feeling they don't agree that openbsd must have
> debian-ugly pages made by c hackers in 1995 who hate html
> and think "design" is for pussies.
Ha! I like that line :) ...actually, I love it!
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 05:00:39PM +, Michael Quaintance said that
> /Please/ don't loose your verbosity.
>
> For newbies like me, your lengthy descriptions of why the OpenBSD
> community thinks like it does are incredibly useful. Short, pithy
how can you believe one man's opinion to b
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:34:39AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said that
> Yes, OpenBSD is the _only_ operating system that takes security as
> seriously as it should be taken. Consider the why of OpenBSD's
this is a silly argument.
of course it is not the only system. don't think nobody else
t
On Nov 26, 2005, at 7:39 PM, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:56:41PM +0100, knitti said that
try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes,
with
that is a silly advice. if one knows what to look for, php and
perl are just as secure as anything else.
--On 26 November 2005 15:15 -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
I actually answered an email about something similar a few days ago
on the list. This is a very old card and there is a bug in the
driver/firmware that ultimately results in the firmware to hang.
Unfortunately I have no idea what causes
Gaby vanhegan wrote:
On 26 Nov 2005, at 11:18, Edd Barrett wrote:
Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
Tried postnuke or phpnuke or one of the other hundreds of varients
based around the word "nuke"?
Well, I have just look at ruby on rails and plone. They are both neat
pro
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:56:41PM +0100, knitti said that
> try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes, with
that is a silly advice. if one knows what to look for, php and
perl are just as secure as anything else. as with anything else,
there are security conscious ph
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 01:55:33AM +0100, Emil Henry Flakk said that
> On 11/25/05, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This should be added to the OpenBSD FAQ ASAP.
not it shouldn't. and maybe tongue in cheek but quite rude.
it contains a lot of flame and Nick should at least spellc
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:36:23 -0600, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Try this:
>
>Index: ami.c
Thanks Marco. I'll try to build up a temp box to do a 3.8 install and
apply the patch tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again,
JCR
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:33:01 +, Jason McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Six of one, half a dozen of the other, and 1/24 of a gross... but if
>> it's considered *enough* of a problem, then I'll fix it.
>>
>
>i personally don't consider it a problem.
>jmc
Thanks for the input. Off list so
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:39:24 -0600, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fake-Raid is fake, and saying that softraid on a fake raid
>card is misleading, because you can do softraid on any IDE device, it does
>not have to be a fake raid crap.
Agreed. My statement was less than clear and could definite
Locking should (safely) be done by spawing a copy of mail.local
for the duration of the operation. This is designed to be safe
even when using NFS spools.
NFS spools are the reason people kept running into trouble
trying to design something safe. A few years ago we settled
on this method which i
Hi Folks-
Following up on the 1U server conversation in July/August, I'd like to
hear some recommendations on *tower-type* server-boxes and
server-motherboards that have support for redirection of textual VGA
output to the serial port.
I'm in the market for a *tower-type* server box (or m/b to pu
... trying to get an errant package (akpop3d) squared away raised the
following question:
Some othe OSs (Linux-Fedora, and FreeBSD) assign ownership of the
/var/mail directory to a group named "mail"; OpenBSD assigns ownership
of this directory to the group "wheel".
Apparently akpop3d needs wr
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:54:04 -0500, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
>>I'm just a normal user who doesn't contribute a great deal to the
>>project, so there is a *HUGE* difference between me and the people who
>>actually have both the expertise and dedication needed
Does anybody else successfully use Squid in transparent mode exactly as
described in the (evil ;-) HOWTO http://www.benzedrine.cx/transquid.html
together with any kind of a redirect_program?
I've tried first using adzapper.sf.net and then just a "hello world"
redirector from http://wiki.squid-cach
I'm using a keyboard and trackball connected via USB exclusively
(on i386-current, see dmesg below) for a few days now.
If I leave pckbc enabled, I get lots of messages "pckbc: cmd failed",
which is rather annoying.
OTH, disabling pckbc in the kernel using config(8) also seems to
disable the cons
J.C. Roberts wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:00:39 +, Michael Quaintance
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>JCR,
>>
>>/Please/ don't loose your verbosity.
>>
>>For newbies like me, your lengthy descriptions of why the OpenBSD
>>community thinks like it does are incredibly useful. Short, pithy
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:25:16 +, Michael Quaintance
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>I'm just a normal user who doesn't contribute a great deal to the
>>project, so there is a *HUGE* difference between me and the people who
>>actually have both the expertise and ded
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Index: ami.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/ic/ami.c,v
retrieving revision 1.98
diff -u -p -u -p -r1.98 ami.c
--- ami.c 26 Nov 2005 05:49:47 - 1.98
+++ ami.c 26 Nov 2005 21:35:32 -
@@ -1305,6 +1305,1
I actually answered an email about something similar a few days ago on the
list. This is a very old card and there is a bug in the driver/firmware that
ultimately results in the firmware to hang. Unfortunately I have no idea what
causes it so what we did is mark these specific boards as "broken"
Bruno S. Delbono wrote:
Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
typo3
Stephan
Hi all,
I'm having trouble getting my Cisco Aironet PCM352 card working on my
compaq presario 2100 (AMD). In particular, I get the message:
an0: failed to enable MAC
during boot of the install, and when I try to use dhcp. I received
this message with 3.8-release. I decided not to configure th
On 11/25/05, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> You are partially correct about the "MegaRAID ATA 133-2" HBA; the
> "MegaRAID ATA 133-2" is _partially_ supported in OpenBSD mainly because
> it is only _partially_ a RAID device. The low-end ATA-133-2 card is
> actually a "fake-RAID" devic
J.C. Roberts wrote:
Please do not mistake me and my opinions for the opinions of the OpenBSD
community in general. OpenBSD users and developers actually thrive on
the conflict of differing opinions; a reasonably friendly competition to
figure out and prove both what works and what works best.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:00:39 +, Michael Quaintance
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>JCR,
>
>/Please/ don't loose your verbosity.
>
>For newbies like me, your lengthy descriptions of why the OpenBSD
>community thinks like it does are incredibly useful. Short, pithy
>explanations like Tony's are gr
I've replaced the card with another SBUS QFE card, and it works; I'm
willing to chalk it up to a bad card.
Here's the dmesg:
OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #0: Sun Nov 6 12:55:51 CST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/src/sys/arch/sparc/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 268058624
avail mem = 241082368
usi
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:30:08 -0500
"Will H. Backman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are looking for MD5 sums to verify the trustworthiness of the
> packages, I think the best way would be to purchase the official CDs
> from the OpenBSD store and run the MD5 tool yourself. Not the most
> usefu
Hello,
Where can I find utf-8 capable terminal emulator, similar to aterm? It
must have proper utf-8 support.
Also, is there any utf-8 fonts available in ports/packages?
I want to use mostly console apps (mutt, vim, slrn, etc) but I can't
because I need proper utf-8 support for email, web pa
PROBLEM: When booting to Official OpenBSD 3.8 CD ROM, bsd.rd seems to
get stuck in an endless loop waiting for something on the LSI Logic
MegaRAID i4 HBA. The result is output like below after the boot dmesg
(3.8 dmesg attached below, done via serial):
ami0: timeout ccb 1
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:36:46AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> But this isn't really a perl problem, or a php problem. It's possible to
> write secure code in many environments, but it's not easy. Most cms
> developers worry more about having tons of features than about secure
> code. "Security
> Hello,
>
> On OpenBSD Firefox and Thunderbird packages/ports are GTK1.x, how can I
> get them or compile them so that they use GTK2.x.x? Thanks.
You can upgrade to 3.8 -current.
Hello,
On OpenBSD Firefox and Thunderbird packages/ports are GTK1.x, how can I
get them or compile them so that they use GTK2.x.x? Thanks.
J.C. Roberts wrote:
Both security and reliability are really nothing more than a byproduct
of correctness and well informed decisions.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:34:39 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's the point.
Note the "nothing more". And the "byproduct".
If you throw away the corr
knitti wrote:
try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes, with
both languages it is _possible_ to write secure code, but actually
very seldom practiced. Everything else is a matter of taste and the
task to solve.
This is a shame about perl, but I can't say you're wrong.
J.C. Roberts wrote:
> To the rest of list users; Please pardon another long email from me on
> this. Helping reasonable people like Robbert understand why many people
> consider "HOWTO's" to be harmful is hopefully worth the added noise and
> bandwidth.
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:57:12 +0100, Rob
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:34:39 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>J.C. Roberts wrote:
>> To the rest of list users; Please pardon another long email from me on
>> this. Helping reasonable people like Robbert understand why many people
>> consider "HOWTO's" to be harmful is hopefully worth the added
this is a bit off-topic, but hey
On 11/26/05, Bruno S. Delbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
use google, there are tons of cms out there, your question is
obviously too generic.
look at their vulnerabilities, look at their code, look at their
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 12:53:16AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> I don't mind doing the work to standardize the "file system" versus
> "filesystem" usage in the docs. It would be fairly simple to do. It's
> not really an issue since it's perfectly understandable both ways but at
> the same time,
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:58:48 -0800, "Bruno S. Delbono"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be
>mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready
>to junk it.
>
>Is there a better, more secure replacem
Hi,
I sometime use ettercap for fun :) http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/
Caution : do not use this on production network !! Some switches may
*really* don't like it (especially the ARP-spoofing) !! You can do
some basic and advanced sniffing/analysing with it.
Best regards,
Bruno.
On 11/25/05,
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 01:45:47AM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> there may be a missing cache_purge in msdosfs_rename.
I've looked at the code and yes, you're correct. There was a missing
cache_purge() in msdosfs_rename(), and that fixed the issue for me.
Alexander, can you confirm the problem is g
To the rest of list users; Please pardon another long email from me on
this. Helping reasonable people like Robbert understand why many people
consider "HOWTO's" to be harmful is hopefully worth the added noise and
bandwidth.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:57:12 +0100, Robbert Haarman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Robbert Haarman wrote:
>>If end-users are lazy and want to take the easy way out, they should
>>go back to using linux and MS-Windows. They are not welcome here.
>>
>>
>
>That's a pity. I personally think OpenBSD is the _only_ operating system
>that takes security as seriously as it should be
On 11/23/05, Reyk Floeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- cut -
> it's the unsupported rf2112
Yes, mine it's:
D-Link AirPlus XtremeG DWL-G520
H/W Ver.: B3
F/W Ver.: 4.11
AR5213 7.9 phy 4.5 rf 2112a 5.6
And It's not supported. Rev. B2 and B1 are working under openbsd.
So, beware when you buy this
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Robbert Haarman wrote:
> The reason I wrote the HOWTO is that, in my opinion of course, the
> manpages don't make it clear how to set things up. Searching the
> archives for more information came up with some contradictory messages,
> and some instances of people being misl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
J.C. Roberts wrote:
The think I found interesting is that HIER(7) uses the term "filesystem"
without a space, while other man pages use "file system" with a space.
Other documentation on the OpenBSD.org web site also shows both
spellings are used in fairly equal measu
On 26 Nov 2005, at 11:18, Edd Barrett wrote:
>> Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
>
> Tried postnuke or phpnuke or one of the other hundreds of varients
> based around the word "nuke"?
I've heard that they're not great in terms of security either.
Have you considered Ruby on R
> Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
Tried postnuke or phpnuke or one of the other hundreds of varients
based around the word "nuke"?
I love the way these people have a website telling you all about them.
Regards
Edd
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:58:48 -0800
"Bruno S. Delbono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be
> mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready
> to junk it.
I would've junked it the first time thoug
Hi All,
One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be
mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready
to junk it.
Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
PS - Here is the 0-day expolit (for all versions of mambo not protected)
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 02:52:11AM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Here a question I found interesting for my own education, and I am
> trying to come to peace with as far as applications usage with dual
> core, or multi-processor vs single one.
>
> I was asking myself if I would actually benefit
Dear JCR,
Thank you for your informative message.
> Things like "HowTo" documents, sites like openbsdsupport.org and lists
> like openbsd-newbie@ are more often than not considered garbage. The
> reason is simply because you are robbing the reader of the fundamental
> and important details that t
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 01:51 -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> since the dmesg you posted previously contains the line:
> ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x03: SpeedStep
>
> i think you're confused about something.
Indeed, I must be very confused. I did the dmesg check on the
if the price is similar, or not an issue, i would just buy the dual
core system. you can always run the up kernel on an mp system (while
the reverse is true, it doesn't usually help much), and later it will
be more flexible.
On 11/26/05, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 01:33 -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> > On 11/25/05, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to determine from the dmesg if speedstep is
> > > detected?
> >
> > dmesg | grep SpeedStep works pretty well.
On 11/25/05, Alexander Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> $ mkdir a aa ab
> $ find .
> .
> ./a
> ./aa
> ./ab
> $ mv aa ab a
> $ find .
> .
> ./a
> ./a/aa
> $ ll a
> total 16
> drwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4096 Nov 26 00:52 aa/
> drwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4096 Nov 26 00:52 ab/
> $ find -L .
> .
> ./a
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 01:33 -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On 11/25/05, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there any way to determine from the dmesg if speedstep is
> > detected?
>
> dmesg | grep SpeedStep works pretty well.
Well, that comes up empty so I guess the speedstep in this
box
On 11/25/05, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any way to determine from the dmesg if speedstep is
> detected?
dmesg | grep SpeedStep works pretty well.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:07:20 +, Jason McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 10:33:46PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>> I went looking for HIER(7) but didn't know it's name, so I stuffed the
>> words "file system" into an Apropos keyword search and got nothing.
>>
>> http:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Here a question I found interesting for my own education, and I am trying to
> come to peace with as far as applications usage with dual core, or
> multi-processor vs single one.
>
> I was asking myself if I would actually benefit from a dual core proc
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:52:51 +0100, Robbert Haarman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dear list, especially Greg and Mickey,
>
>I've updated the working copy of the CCD Mirroring HOWTO. In particular,
>I've split off the comparison to software RAID into a separate section
>and clarified that ccd does
J.C. Roberts wrote:
> I went looking for HIER(7) but didn't know it's name, so I stuffed the
> words "file system" into an Apropos keyword search and got nothing.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=file+system&sektion=0
> &manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&apropos=1&format=html
>
>
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 10:33:46PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> I went looking for HIER(7) but didn't know it's name, so I stuffed the
> words "file system" into an Apropos keyword search and got nothing.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=file+system&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Curren
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