Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Abraham Al-Saleh
On 9/5/05, Stephan A. Rickauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ramiro Aceves schrieb: > > I like and use both systems. But If you are concerned about easy > > upgrading, I would recommend Debian GNU/Linux (no flamewars please ;-) > > ). It is a very stable system that it is upgraded slowly, about 2

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Siju George
On 9/5/05, Giedrius Rekaius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:52:50 +0300, Stephan A. Rickauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am already in love with it, since I plan to use it as a HA-firewall > > using carp and pfsync. Problem here is just that it looks as if I had to >

Re: Jose Nazario's dmesg explained for OpenBSD

2005-09-05 Thread Siju George
On 9/5/05, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Siju George wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In there an online openbsd version of > > > > http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html > > > > by Jose?? > > > > I understad that it is there in his book but am unable to place it on > > the web :-( > > > >

Re: Jose Nazario's dmesg explained for OpenBSD

2005-09-05 Thread Andrew Daugherity
On 9/5/05, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first "word" of most dmesg lines is a device driver, and in this > case, they all are: pchb, ppb, pci, vga, wsdisplay, pcib, pciide, wd. > And (get this!) they each have a man page! Is that cool or what? :) > > So, you want to learn about w

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread John Brooks
Don't forget the basics... is the floppy ribbon cable connected? is the floppy ribbon cable known to be good? are the connectors fully seated, try reseating them? is the power connected to the drive? is the drive connected after the cable twist? is the drive known to be good? -- John

Re: I built me a router <- addendeum

2005-09-05 Thread Bill
I should note that this is not an internet router, but for the middle of a 100MB network... Its not for a lower usage internet connection. On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:22:29 -0400 Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So anyway, I got this whole router thing done and installed. Did some > tests across it

I built me a router

2005-09-05 Thread Bill
So anyway, I got this whole router thing done and installed. Did some tests across it before the big rush back tomorrow for everyone. I started documenting it so others can get an idea of what to expect. I've got the basic description done but was not sure what people would want to see as far as

OpenBSD 3.8-beta Alpha panic with pppoe

2005-09-05 Thread Roger D Neth Jr
Hello List, I am unable to get pppoe to work with an alpha that I want to use as a firewall. It panics amap_wipeout: corrupt amap when I connect the ADSL Speedstream modem to any of the three nic's. I have used the same hostname.pppoe0 and ppp.conf files with the same modem and a secondary n

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Simon Farnsworth
On Monday 05 September 2005 23:47, Marco Peereboom wrote: > floppys are not supported on amd. Has been in the archives for ages. If > you had included the dmesg as you are supposed to you would not have been > wasting everyones time (as usual). > > Art wrote a nice rant about why not a few weeks

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Marco Peereboom
floppys are not supported on amd. Has been in the archives for ages. If you had included the dmesg as you are supposed to you would not have been wasting everyones time (as usual). Art wrote a nice rant about why not a few weeks ago. On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:23:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Volume based internet restrictions

2005-09-05 Thread Fletch
Greets I am setting up an openbsd router to manage a companies intenet access, and would like to deploy volume based internet usage. I have setup squid, but it doesn't seem to have any options to limit a user by volume of traffic, only bandwidth. Is there any solution to do this? I pretty

Re: Jose Nazario's dmesg explained for OpenBSD

2005-09-05 Thread Nick Holland
Siju George wrote: > Hi, > > In there an online openbsd version of > > http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html > > by Jose?? > > I understad that it is there in his book but am unable to place it on > the web :-( > > Please let me know if it exists on the web!!! Haven't seen such a beast

Re: update /etc/changelist as part of package install?

2005-09-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:11:02PM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: > MikeyG wrote: > > Just a thought. For packages with sensitive system configs wouldn't it > > be useful if the install automatically patched /etc/changelist. Also it > > might help if they modified /etc/mtree/special too, although th

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread Joel Dinel
On 5-Sep-05, at 5:31 PM, Steven Bowers wrote: How about a Dell PowerConnect 2216? They are currently $49US for an unmanaged 16port that can be rackmounted with the included hardware. Quiet and fairly reliable. A friend of mine was once running a pentest at a client's site, and they had a

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread Steven Bowers
How about a Dell PowerConnect 2216? They are currently $49US for an unmanaged 16port that can be rackmounted with the included hardware. Quiet and fairly reliable.

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Fred Crowson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 05 September 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I've noticed that fdc isn't in /dev/. I noticed it during I tried to boot a floppy. fdc(4) is the floppy controller. If you read the manpage, you'll discover that the floppy *drive* is /dev

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Simon Farnsworth
On Monday 05 September 2005 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Monday 05 September 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well I guess the floppy-controler on an ASUS K7V880 is noticed but not > used. > Simpler than that; the floppy controller appears to have no drives attached from the PoV of

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread sebastian . rother
> On Monday 05 September 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hello everybody, >> >> I've noticed that fdc isn't in /dev/. >> I noticed it during I tried to boot a floppy. >> > fdc(4) is the floppy controller. If you read the manpage, you'll discover > that > the floppy *drive* is /dev/fd[0-3][A

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Andreas Kahari
Try actually reading that manual on fdc as well. It says: The standard names of a floppy drive will take the form /dev/fd{0,1,2,3}{,B,C,D,E,F,G,H}[a-p]. Cheers, Andreas On 05/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I've noticed that fdc isn't in /de

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Antti Nykänen
On 2005-09-05 at 21:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've noticed that fdc isn't in /dev/. > I noticed it during I tried to boot a floppy. You probably want to access a floppy drive, which are called fd*, not fdc*. >From fdc(4): The standard names of a floppy drive will take the form

Re: Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread Simon Farnsworth
On Monday 05 September 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I've noticed that fdc isn't in /dev/. > I noticed it during I tried to boot a floppy. > fdc(4) is the floppy controller. If you read the manpage, you'll discover that the floppy *drive* is /dev/fd[0-3][A-H][a-p] Try

Floppy problems... (fdc missing in /dev)

2005-09-05 Thread sebastian . rother
Hello everybody, I've noticed that fdc isn't in /dev/. I noticed it during I tried to boot a floppy. 1. I checked the FD-Device # dmesg | grep fd fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask fff5 netmask fffd ttymask fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask fff5 netmask fffd ttymask f

happy birthday for Theo :-)

2005-09-05 Thread Pornostar
happy birthday for Theo :-) http://www.techexpo.aplus.pl/openbsd2.jpg :-)

Re: update /etc/changelist as part of package install?

2005-09-05 Thread Steve Shockley
MikeyG wrote: > Just a thought. For packages with sensitive system configs wouldn't it > be useful if the install automatically patched /etc/changelist. Also it > might help if they modified /etc/mtree/special too, although this is > probably more difficult to get right. Packages shouldn't modify

Re: CVSync-Problems...

2005-09-05 Thread Nick Holland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:03:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >>> Is there any problem with CVSYNC currently? >> >> 3.8 has been tagged, which puts heavy load on all mirrors (including >> cvsync mirrors). > > Yes I thought about that too but I wonder why it take

Re: packet blocking question

2005-09-05 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 05 September 2005 13:15, Kevin wrote: > One starting point for you to consider in your quest for IP lists is > /etc/spamd.conf which has URLs of places to get IP lists to > block--some of them are national. These lists can make the foundation > of what you're after I imagine. This URL ca

Re: packet blocking question

2005-09-05 Thread Kevin
> I've been reading Jacek's book on pf but haven't > found a way to block packets on the basis of the > country of origin. Is it that possible in pf? Yes, but you'll need to define what IP blocks you want blocked yourself. I have resorted to this myself to stop certain known spam havens from hitti

Re: CVSync-Problems...

2005-09-05 Thread sebastian . rother
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:03:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> Is there any problem with CVSYNC currently? > > 3.8 has been tagged, which puts heavy load on all mirrors (including > cvsync mirrors). Yes I thought about that too but I wonder why it takes about 1-2 days even for the mirro

Re: CVSync-Problems...

2005-09-05 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:03:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any problem with CVSYNC currently? 3.8 has been tagged, which puts heavy load on all mirrors (including cvsync mirrors). Ciao, Kili

CVSync-Problems...

2005-09-05 Thread sebastian . rother
I've some problems with serval CVSYNC-Servers. No matter wich server I tried for now I've similiar errors: Updating (collection openbsd/rcs) No such file or directory Updater(RCS): ADD: /nfs/cvs/ports/devel/libglade2/files/libglade2.spec,v Updater: RCS Error Socket Error: recv: 2 residue 2 Receiv

massive kde error log after upgrade

2005-09-05 Thread Dave Feustel
I apologise if I'm posting these questions to the wrong list. I'm getting GAZILLIONS of the following error messages since I upgraded to KDE 3.3.2. How come? 1 QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key ASSERT: "!m_doc->wrapCursor()" in /usr/obj/i386/kdelibs-3.3

packet blocking question

2005-09-05 Thread Dave Feustel
I've been reading Jacek's book on pf but haven't found a way to block packets on the basis of the country of origin. Is it that possible in pf? Thanks, Dave Feustel -- Tired of having to defend against Malware? (You know: trojans, viruses, SPYWARE, ADWARE, KEYLOGGERS, rootkits, worms and popups)

Re: update /etc/changelist as part of package install?

2005-09-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Mickey, [ pkg_add does not change /etc/changelist and /etc/mtree/special ] > is there a good reason why this isn't done? IMHO, KISS. Don't have packages mess up the base system. Keep central configuration files as concise and straightforward as possible. Of course, if you have some particul

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Nick Holland
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: > Currently, our Institute investigates alternative operating systems > compared to Linux. Apart from technical issues we are also concerned > about lifecycle management as well. We simply don't want to > reinstall/upgrade an entire OS all half year, which is the main

Re: DBMail on openBSD

2005-09-05 Thread Greg Maruszeczka
Jean-Daniel Beaubien wrote: > Hi everyone, I'd like to get an idea of the status of DBMail on > openBSD. If anyone has had some experience with DBMail on obsd please > let me know what you think about it. Is it stable? How is the speed? > How's the initial setup? > > I know I there's a dbmail m

Re: certpatch in 3.8 ...

2005-09-05 Thread Tim Kornau
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 at 10:31 -0600, jared r r spiegel wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:58:31PM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > > yes, it was removed a little while ago. you can get the same > > functionality from openssl(1) req. see also isakmpd(8). > > i checked on the isakmpd(8), it gives

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread Mark Prins
On 9/4/05, Przemyslaw Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi misc, > I'm trying to find & buy a stable & reliable 5 to 8 port 100Mbit > switch for my home network. My first impression was to buy the 3COM > OfficeConnect Dual Speed Switch 10/100 5 Plus (3C16790) or the D-Link > DES-1005D Switch 1

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread tony sarendal
I use OpenBSD boxes with a few 4xFE on two sites as switches/routers =) I'm am happier with them than the cheapo switches I replaced. -- Tony Sarendal - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP/Unix -= The scorpion replied, "I couldn't help it, it's my nature" =-

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:35:19PM +0200, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: > Henning Brauer schrieb: > >you don't have to reinstall at all. hogwash by some people here. I have > >about a hundred servers in production, some are upgraded ever since 2.7 > >times or so. upgrade typically takes us 5

update /etc/changelist as part of package install?

2005-09-05 Thread MikeyG
Hi, Just a thought. For packages with sensitive system configs wouldn't it be useful if the install automatically patched /etc/changelist. Also it might help if they modified /etc/mtree/special too, although this is probably more difficult to get right. Or is there a good reason why this isn

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread JR Dalrymple
Moritz Grimm wrote: Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: The question is how you OpenBSD guys handle the upgrade issue. From the website I learned that -STABLE is maintained for only one year (= two releases). Given that upgrading by skipping one release is not recommended, does that mean one needs to

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Bill Chmura
I recently did my first upgrade from 3.6 to 3.7 without the cd's and it was surprisingly simple... I would say the upgrade was less complicated than my last linux upgrade (kernel and userland is in sync here). Love this OS On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:21:29 +0200 Moritz Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Henning Brauer schrieb: you don't have to reinstall at all. hogwash by some people here. I have about a hundred servers in production, some are upgraded ever since 2.7 times or so. upgrade typically takes us 5 minutes and one reboot a box. Well, I am thinking of using OpenBSD for our firewalls

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Moritz Grimm schrieb: The result is really painless upgrades -- maybe not in a sense of (attempted) automation like on some other OSes, but in terms of breakages. The time saved by the fact that everything typically Just Works makes up for the few additional manual steps during upgrades, and N

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Giedrius RekaE!ius schrieb: If it's just a firewall, and you won't need any new features (wich will come with some new release), then why should you upgrade? Just configure it, put the because patch-xy has been made for release zz where I have release bb after 'it has been in the dark corne

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Moritz Grimm
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: The question is how you OpenBSD guys handle the upgrade issue. From the website I learned that -STABLE is maintained for only one year (= two releases). Given that upgrading by skipping one release is not recommended, does that mean one needs to upgrade the entire OS

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Giedrius Rekašius
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:52:50 +0300, Stephan A. Rickauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am already in love with it, since I plan to use it as a HA-firewall using carp and pfsync. Problem here is just that it looks as if I had to reinstall it all year ... Hi Stephan, If it's just a firewall, a

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Ramiro Aceves schrieb: I like and use both systems. But If you are concerned about easy upgrading, I would recommend Debian GNU/Linux (no flamewars please ;-) ). It is a very stable system that it is upgraded slowly, about 2 years (they whant to speed it in the future to 18 month cicle). You wi

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Edd Barrett
Howdy > Debian has got more "ready to use" packages than OpenBSD has. I found > more applications for my engineering work and amateur radio hobby. > Upgrades are a simple "aptitude dist-upgrade" command. On OpenBSD, you > usually have to reinstall everything when you upgrade (or compile). Espie h

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: > Currently, our Institute investigates alternative operating systems > compared to Linux. Apart from technical issues we are also concerned > about lifecycle management as well. We simply don't want to > reinstall/upgrade an entire OS all half year, which is the main rea

Re: complex.h under OpenBSD

2005-09-05 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello again, After several days of investigation, I was able to patch and make NEC (numerical Electromacnetigs Code) in plain C languaje under OpenBSD. The trick was making function definitions for those functions that are "built-in " in gcc compiler: #define complex _Complex double creal(comple

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 05 September 2005 12:17 +0200, Johan P. LindstrC6m wrote: HP's ProCurve series are a bit on the steep side, though they come with lifetime warranty, got two 2524 (managed) 10/100 and I haven't seen any issues with them so far I looked at some HP 2626 which seem like quite nice switches (

Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-05 Thread Johan P . Lindström
HP's ProCurve series are a bit on the steep side, though they come with lifetime warranty, got two 2524 (managed) 10/100 and I haven't seen any issues with them so far, next to them I got two D-Link (unmanaged) 10/100/1000 16 port switches, on one of them the fan sounded like a lawnmower and failed

Re: mount_null gone?

2005-09-05 Thread Gijs Nijholt
On 05 Sep 2005 10:51:37 +0200, Artur Grabowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nullfs never worked. Anything else you experienced can be explained by > luck or high resistance to kernel crashes and corrupted data. It's not > coming back until it's safe. In the same way as rlogin is not coming > back a

Re: Security Patch - OpenSSH

2005-09-05 Thread sebastian . rother
> Miroslav Kubik wrote: >> I'm just wondering if the patch for OpenSSH bugs ( >> http://secunia.com/advisories/16686/ ) already exists for >> OpenBSD or if it necessary to compile new version of OpenSSH. On >> OpenBSD errata page is nothing. > > This is fixed in OpenSSH-4.2 which is in CVS now. I

Re: Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: The question is how you OpenBSD guys handle the upgrade issue. From the website I learned that -STABLE is maintained for only one year (= two releases). Given that upgrading by skipping one release is not recommended, does that mean one needs to upgrade the entire OS

Lifecycle question

2005-09-05 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Currently, our Institute investigates alternative operating systems compared to Linux. Apart from technical issues we are also concerned about lifecycle management as well. We simply don't want to reinstall/upgrade an entire OS all half year, which is the main reason, why we will no longer use

Re: mount_null gone?

2005-09-05 Thread Artur Grabowski
Gijs Nijholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > After some digging through mailinglist archives, it seems that > mount_null is no longer in the GENERIC since OpenBSD 3.7 (and > mount_union as well) > This is not mentioned in the release notes as far as I can verify. > > Why is it gone and

Re: mount_null gone?

2005-09-05 Thread jimmy
Quoting Gijs Nijholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What's particularly strange, it's that the command (/sbin/mount_null) > exists, but on executing the following command: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> sudo mount_null /extended/ /home/gijs/fileserver/ > ...I get the following error: > mount_null: /home/gijs/filese