Re: [Mesa-dev] stupid development model causing more problems than its worth

2010-04-29 Thread Zack Rusin
On Thursday 29 April 2010 20:58:04 Dave Airlie wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Fonseca wrote: > > We discussed the pros & cons of this several times, there was never > > consensus, and there is always room for improvements, but I refuse to > > discuss them in such terms, where you

Re: [Mesa-dev] stupid development model causing more problems than its worth

2010-04-29 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Fonseca wrote: > We discussed the pros & cons of this several times, there was never > consensus, and there is always room for improvements, but I refuse to discuss > them in such terms, where you paint this absurd image of vmware bullying > everybody arou

Re: [Mesa-dev] stupid development model causing more problems than its worth

2010-04-29 Thread Jose Fonseca
mesa-dev-bounces+jfonseca=vmware@lists.freedesktop.org [mesa-dev-bounces+jfonseca=vmware@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Dave Airlie [airl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 0:48 To: mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: [Mesa-dev] stupid development model causing more prob

[Mesa-dev] stupid development model causing more problems than its worth

2010-04-29 Thread Dave Airlie
Can we stop the stupid already? from what I can see nobody that is shipping a real driver that Linux distros want is able to work with the current system. By this I mean only vmware are seeing value in it and we are being held hostage by it. Here's the thing you should *always* be working on mas