first MeeGo IRC meeting was quite productive and the use of
http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot resulted in very cool automatic minutes:
http://meego.mkdir.name/logs/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-02-24-20.04.html
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meego.com still need some RSS love, so here is a link to
http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one where
some questions are answered by Valtteri.
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http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-sdk
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rucial discussion and even less decisions.
For that we need to wait to the MeeGo Summit. :)
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project (in practice,
a task assumed by a team coordinated by Nokia).
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business). If that would be a
better world for software freedom, I don't know.
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, following the process described at
http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_development/Licensing_change_requests
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lly nobody's interest to focus in the differences of
Harmattan (the former Maemo 6) in order to tear it apart, as long as it
offers a MeeGo API and a simple tool for developers to deal with rpm/deb
and the Ovi Store. After the transition period MeeGo based devices from
Nokia will ship with a
e differences of
> Harmattan (the former Maemo 6) in order to tear it apart, as long as it
> offers a MeeGo API and a simple tool for developers to deal with rpm/deb
> and the Ovi Store. After the transition period MeeGo based devices from
> Nokia will ship with a pure MeeGo stack, and p
nstead of an open development since the first line of code.
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t; focus. Fully agree. My only 'worry' was that the 2 types of surround
> (individual applications and 'universe') would be split apart.
Why split apart? The Downloads team is responsible of the QA and
distribution of any downloads distributed from meego.com not comprised
in th
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 11:26 +0200, ext Niels Breet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems that the list of group tags are specified in the Packaging
> Guidelines:
> http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines#Group_Tag
>
> This list looks like it needs some attention as the options are very
> limited and some
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 09:21 +0100, ext Till Harbaum / Lists wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> i would really like to release some ready-to-run beagleboard meego image. But
> unfortunately we are missing a place to store files in the gigabyte range for
> public download.
>
> Other meego projects and even th
://wiki.meego.com/Technical_Steering_Group_meetings
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CROSSPOSTING ON PURPOSE - please reply only to meego-events.
Loud and clear: 100% community - non-profit - hobbyist submissions are
also welcome at the MeeGo Conference
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/call-session-proposals
Just like in Dublin. Hurry up!
I'm sending this because I just realized
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 18:44 +0200, ext Randolph Dohm wrote:
> N8 is a cool mobile phone, but has only one hardware button.
Your email is totally off-topic in this list and the MeeGo project
context. The MeeGo project doesn't develop any devices.
If you have feedback about Nokia products you might
(((This topic goes beyond meego-dev - I'm answering you here but if you
have further questions I encourage you to go to forum.meego.com -
Handset or Application Developer Support. Thanks!)))
As explained at http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=22953&postcount=77
& http://forum.meego.com/showp
supported making a MeeGo
release, and another thing are the repos of software containing software
from all kinds of third parties.
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Hi,
ext Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 April 2010 10:16:07 Quim Gil wrote:
>> The plan is to have in few weeks a first complete MeeGo release followed
>> by a roadmap to work on the next release. Once this is out the MeeGo
>> project shouldn't have any obstacle to h
Forgot another important aspect. See below. :)
Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Graham Cobb wrote:
>> On Tuesday 27 April 2010 10:16:07 Quim Gil wrote:
>>> The plan is to have in few weeks a first complete MeeGo release followed
>>> by a roadmap
ext Glen Gray wrote:
> On 27 Apr 2010, at 10:16, Quim Gil wrote:
>
>> The plan is to have in few weeks a first complete MeeGo release
>> followed by a roadmap to work on the next release. Once this is out
>> the MeeGo project shouldn't have any obstacle to h
and coordination about the meeGo developer offering, but you
can also ask your questions there if you wish.
http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-sdk
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ext An Yang wrote:
> Hi Glen,
>
> 在 2010-04-30五的 10:03 +0100，Gl
and coordination about the meeGo developer offering, but you
can also ask your questions there if you wish.
http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-sdk
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ext Efan... wrote:
> Thanx Tom,
>
> I got it. But this is talking about
://forum.meego.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3
Thank you for your interest in MeeGo and I hope you get the right answers.
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ext Efan... wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Any one got any chance to build and run any Qt application on Nokia N900
> having Meego???
>
> I did installed Nokia mobile sdk but
ext Xu Cheng wrote:
> Hi, Tom:
> I have same question as Efan. What's MADDE? Is a IDE?
http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE
Coming soon to MeeGo and its developer documentation. Good that MeeGo
also starts with M so we don't need to rename anything. ;)
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we can also get weekly updates on the most popular bugs and enhancement
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Hi, erkanyilmaz start this useful wiki page
http://wiki.meego.com/Compatible_devices_with_MeeGo
Please help completing it. "Is compatible with MeeGo?" is one of
the FAQ from people with a mobile device (mainly netbooks) or thinking
of buying one.
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ext David Greaves wrote:
> Robin Burchell wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM, David Greaves wrote:
>>> Quim Gil wrote:
>>>> Hi, erkanyilmaz start this useful wiki page
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.meego.com/Compatible_devices_with_MeeGo
&g
can't vote in
bugs.meego.com the OP created a thread with a poll at
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=96 :)
Please give your feedback in any of those channels. We will decide in a
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Quim Gil wrote:
> Hi, we are considering the addition of Bugzilla's voting feature at
Of course I meant http://bugs.meego.com
Sorry, too much time typing some URLs
>
> http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/2.22/html/voting.html
>
> This feature serves a very good purpose in h
free image (freedom at the expense of some
functionality/performance) and an image with binaries provided by Nokia
(functionality/performance at the expense of some freedom).
As far as I know the proprietary binaries used are already present in
Maemo 5 since they belong to
ease will be public, nothing disruptive AND secret should be
in the pipeline distorting the development of the ongoing unstable release.
The success of MeeGo is build on top of openness and predictability. Big
reveals are not very useful for vendors having to plan their products
well in advance.
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's a choice
for application developers.
Going back to the original point, what really matters is that MeeGo
users can enjoy the combination of MeeGo devices and applications of
their choice no matter what choices have been made by the developers of
those devices and applications.
> Too many
nnels publicly documented. Anybody should be able to go
to the right place and convince the right people with words, mockups,
code... Anybody should have a chance to become a maintainer or
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ext Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quim Gil wrote:
>> I really believe that it is useful to discuss all topics well in advance
>> before throwing them to the TSG agenda. I keep repeating myself that
>> mantra from Arjan: "If a topic reaches the TSG it means that the
specially
for stuff you really don't need in a primary navigation bar.
Now please go back to the real discussion: the content of
http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Policy :)
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t a concrete plan for that
budget that I know, which is not, er, optimal considering how fast time
passes both for Maemo 5 and MeeGo.
Conclusion: if you think that we as Nokia still could to do something
else to ease the transition of Hildon based applications to MeeGo please
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tion using Qt. Unfortunately this is completely unrealistic.
>
> Still hoping for Hildon on Meego!
Having an evolutionary path for GTK+ & Maemo 5 apps into MeeGo Handset
(and touch friendly UXs in general) makes total sense, and this is why
we are here (and in gnome.org) discussing in these terms.
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ng the content
(extreme case).
Are there more issues?
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Hi,
On 05/31/2010 12:26 PM, ext Jianchun Zhou wrote:
> Is Meego aimed to defeat iphone? How long will it take?
Please consider starting a new thread at
http://forum.meego.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
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> content. I don't know how/where they're working. That group is Thiago,
> Carsten, Mr. Meeks and (ahem) you.
Yes, as explained at http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=95
PS: you can subscribe to forum threads and get an email whenever there
are updates. No
g when the Northern Hemisphere enjoys
good weather and then in the dull Autumn we have the smaller one with
basically full time employees closed in a big room during 3 days because
anyway it's dark and raining outside. ;)
Or find alternative Southern venues and meet every six months but a
ity Office activity can stay in the mailing list and forget about
the forum.
This guideline can be revised when we have a better technical setting,
but they could be implemented right away with the current infrastructure.
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Hello,
We don't have quorum for tomorrow's Technical Steering Group meeting.
The participation of the key people is confirmed for next Webdnesday,
August 18.
Let's chat next week, then. More details at
http://wiki.meego.com/Technical_Steering_Group_meeting
Hi, are you asking me?
On 08/27/2010 02:17 PM, ext Randolph Dohm wrote:
> quim, is it true, that nokia meego pad will be available for 1&1 ?
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/1-1-laesst-SmartPad-auslaufen-1068272.html
> are there any strategic alliances besides automotive?
First, my knowle
good reason?
> And once that's the case. you really can't say "oh but you can
> depend on anything that's in Extras". Or even "you can depend on things
> that are not in the required set" to be honest.
I agree: the MeeGo project should put the e
27;s box.
The MeeGo Extras stable repository would contain apps tested to work on
top of official MeeGo releases. No "compliance" word needed: they are
"extras".
Vendor specific compliance requirements not shared by the rest of MeeGo
have nothing to do with MeeGo and are out o
On 09/13/2010 01:28 PM, ext Warren Baird wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
>>
>>
>>> - Should we have several grades of MeeGo compliance applications? And
>>> what is a purpose of the "MeeGo compliant application" concept?
&
mework. Another solution is to run unsupported libraries on the
extended memory à la Maemo /opt
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs
More solutions? If we agree on the principle we probably will find more
way
> > if you really think that Nokia will enable Extras on operator subsidized
> > phones... I think you underestimate how much operators will not like
> > that.
> >
>
> So why do we want to pander to that in meego.com? Isn't this about open
> source values, or did I misunderstand why helping t
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:58 +0200, Kellomaki Pertti (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
wrote:
> This may be completely left field, but from the discussion so far it
> seems that it could in fact be a lot easier to bless repositories (or
> sets therof) as MeeGo compliant, rather than single packages.
Actually
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 12:13 +0200, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote:
> Forcing Extras out of compliance means you are disenfranchising your
> community.
No. Hosting any kind of free software apps and libraries regardless of
their official/unofficial , compliant/non-compliant and unstable/stable
status m
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 14:19 +0200, Kellomaki Pertti (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
wrote:
> Are there any plans re upstart in MeeGo? I'm asking because we have test
> scripts that use initctl to control daemons, so the scripts need to be
> modified if there is no upstart.
Now there is a meego-architecture
On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 14:58 +0200, Tamminen Eero (Nokia-MS/Helsinki)
wrote:
> Do you have an escalation route for driving this issue?
> Who's responsible for MeeGo bugs & QA in general?
http://meego.com/about/governance/quality-assurance
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Hi,
There was a TSG meeting starting in few minutes but we must cancel it
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We will communicate the new date and agenda as soon as it's ready.
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On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 16:49 +0200, ext Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just noticed in the agenda for the TSG meeting tomorrow (which I won't
> be able to attend) the following agenda item:
>
> * Nomination: Nokia N900 hardware platform maintainer: Carsten Munk.
> * Valtteri Halla/Nokia is p
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:40 +0200, ext Greg KH wrote:
> Of course, a "real" cease-and-desist order would have to be filed for
> any of this to be able to be properly discussed, which I think, is the
> proper next step of the Linux Foundation if they really wish to persue
> this issue.
Greg, do you
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 21:49 +0200, ext jaume dominguez faus wrote:
> Hello list. This mail might seem a bit off-topic. But I don't know a
> better place to find the answers I need than from the people who is
> daily dealing with this.
It is off-topic. :)
If you need to know anything about Maemo
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 23:52 +0200, ext Thiago Macieira wrote:
> This is why I was wondering why we're not using hardfp *now* for 1.1.0.
>
> We shouldn't be breaking binary compatibility.
>
> We shouldn't be softp either.
Just reminding the obvious, but as for today there is no major MeeGo
produc
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 14:31 +0200, ext Rohit Baravkar wrote:
> Hi,
> As per release engineering plan, final Meego 1.1 was planned to
> release between 25th to 27th of October.
> Is there any change in plan? When the source packages for final Meego
> 1.1 will be accessible in Meego source repo?
No
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 20:27 +0200, ext Pain Chung wrote:
> Calendar app shows wrong name. It shows 'meego-handset-calendar'
> instead of 'Calendar'.
> I found this wrong name below file.
>
>
> '/usr/share/applications/meego-handset-calendar.desktop'
> "Name[en_US]=meego-handset-calendar.des
Answering the original question:
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 12:25 +0100, ext Bogdan Cristea wrote:
> On Thursday 04 November 2010 13:20:03 you wrote:
> > Not to be a smart-ass, but define "compliant", please
>
> By that I mean smartphones on which MeeGo has been successfully installed and
> the APIs
round and I'm not sure if I've caught all of them.
Note also that keeping your roadmaps updated is just as important. Some
of the pages linked at the Roadmap page are already old.
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On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 14:45 -0700, ext Wichmann, Mats D wrote:
> meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:27:44PM -0800, Andy Ross wrote:
> >> The subject of how the "MeeGo API" is defined came up in the TSG
> >> yesterday, and against my better judgement I managed to injec
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