Most enterprise users I've seen usually standardize on commercially
supported databases (whether open source or not). If they are actually
using a non-supported version of open source software, they're rolling
their own if they are worried about version changes or distro supplied
patches mucking th
All I am asking for is this: Please, do not substitute packages. Let
mysql-server.deb retain its origin. Please, add MariaDB under a different
name and let the end users decide whether they want to stick with the
Oracle's MySQL or to switch to using MariaDB. If MariaDB is better,
faster, more s
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of Tue Feb 07 01:50:18 -0800 2012:
> Many of us in the Free and Open Source software community have seen a
> trend regarding Oracle's stewardship of Open source software that it
> inherited when it purchased Sun. In particular there were two fairly
> large public
As an end user, I would most strongly dislike this. You clearly don't
understand how corporate users think and operate, how they work with open
source technologies, and how they plan and evolve their technical
roadmaps.
Last year Ubuntu inflicted enough damage on itself by messing up with UI
and
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Colin Charles wrote:
>> There is also a fourth MySQL fork: Percona Server. It is interesting
>> to note people in this thread and in general the Linux distro people
>> seem to omit this when talking about MySQL forks. As far as I'm aware
>> it is the most popular o
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:42:34 +0800, Colin Charles
wrote:
> On 16 Feb 2012, at 10:01, Stewart Smith wrote:
> > Maybe somebody can point out how RHEL/Fedora do multiple web servers or
> > email servers as that's essentially what we have here. Surely things
> > like nginx, lighttpd and postfix are a
Hi!
On 16 Feb 2012, at 07:57, Henrik Ingo wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Fabio T. Leitao
> wrote:
>> For those who have not followed this up closely, a little history.
>>
>> Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS
>> MySQL, forked and re-branded.
Hi!
On 16 Feb 2012, at 10:01, Stewart Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:31:05 +0800, Colin Charles
> wrote:
>> To remain backward compatible, the idea of using the same port number,
>> data files, etc. seem to be in play. If we are to apply for a new port
>> number we have to change the prot
Hi!
On 15 Feb 2012, at 00:49, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> We are unable to determine what the recent MySQL security fixes are due
> to lack of details, and unclear commit messages.
Based on our analysis of commits and bugs, we believe the CPU (critical patch
update) that Oracle released was actua
Hi!
On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:28, Fabio T. Leitao wrote:
> Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS
> MySQL, forked and re-branded.
I like to say that it is MySQL, branched and re-branded with additional
features. It is not a fork. We rebase with MySQL on a regu
Hi!
On 14 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Robbie Williamson wrote:
> One thing to note, the primary motivator for this proposal isn't about
> moving to a more "open source friendly" application. We have genuine
> security concerns/issues with how MySQL handles and publishes their
> security updates. We can
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:31:05 +0800, Colin Charles wrote:
> To remain backward compatible, the idea of using the same port number,
> data files, etc. seem to be in play. If we are to apply for a new port
> number we have to change the protocol to some extent
We have the same issue with Percona Serv
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Fabio T. Leitao
wrote:
> For those who have not followed this up closely, a little history.
>
> Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS
> MySQL, forked and re-branded.
>
> In 2009, even before Oracle has purchased Sun, Monty Wid
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:11 -0600, Robbie Williamson wrote:
> On 02/13/2012 01:20 AM, Eddie Bachle wrote:
> > I would like to say we would still switch, or still heavily consider it
> > for the grains that could be made by using Ubuntu, however
> > realistically, the lack of native MySQL in any OS
>From MariaDB FAQ page:
http://kb.askmonty.org/en/why-is-the-project-called-mariadb
"The 'MySQL' name is trademarked by Oracle, and they have chosen to keep
that trademark to themselves. The name MySQL (just like the MyISAM storage
engine) comes from Monty's first daughter "My". MariaDB continues
For those who have not followed this up closely, a little history.
Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of
IS MySQL, forked and re-branded.
In 2009, even before Oracle has purchased Sun, Monty Widenius (one of the
original creators of MySQL and architects) has le
I currently use Mysql but dont have technical knowledge about it, I just
use it because the programs I use for web development uses it (like
wordpress), so, If I would get the same features and stability while on
MariaDB, I would encourage the move.
Most people who are not database-savvy wont even
On Feb 13, 2012 2:21 PM, "Eddie Bachle" wrote:
>
> In general, I am generally an simply an observer on most of these mailing
lists, however my concerns with a switch are far less technical and far
more practical. I work currently for a college in Michigan which utilizes
almost solely Windows serv
On 02/13/2012 01:20 AM, Eddie Bachle wrote:
> I would like to say we would still switch, or still heavily consider it
> for the grains that could be made by using Ubuntu, however
> realistically, the lack of native MySQL in any OS would be a huge mark
> against it.
FTR, we would not *drop* MySQL
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 02:20 -0500, Eddie Bachle wrote:
> In general, I am generally an simply an observer on most of these
> mailing lists, however my concerns with a switch are far less
> technical and far more practical. I work currently for a college in
> Michigan which utilizes almost solely W
The first time I have attempted this was in the previous release of Ubuntu,
o I am not totally sure of what version number was available.
At least two of the most recent trys were with 11.10 oneiric... the servers
had mysql 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 and now are running
mariadb 5.2.10-mariadb107~oneiric
I h
I have already moved some of my servers to mariadb, with minor to none
downtime during the process, but I have also kept some of them stuck with
mysql just because of the "official" support (well, it is the elected one
in main repository after all)
I have also done some bench marking and have also
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:47 -0200, Fabio T. Leitao wrote:
> I have already moved some of my servers to mariadb, with minor to none
> downtime during the process, but I have also kept some of them stuck
> with mysql just because of the "official" support (well, it is the
> elected one in main reposi
Hello,
On 2/7/2012 8:04 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
As a member of the security team, I think Oracle's move to a private bug
tracker and not publishing details on the security issues is a disaster
for Linux distributions attempting to maintain MySQL.
I would support moving to a project that sti
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 13:04, Marc Deslauriers
wrote:
> Oracle's move to a private bug
> tracker and not publishing details on the security issues is a disaster
> for Linux distributions attempting to maintain MySQL.
Guess you'll only be able to maintain MySQL so far before it becomes obsolete.
H
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 01:50 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
> I'm writing to the greater Debian and Ubuntu community to ask for your
> thoughts on a proposal to drop MySQL in favor of MariaDB. Its clear to
> me that Oracle is not going to do work in the open, and this will become
> a huge support burden
>
> This will only get harder as the community bug tracker gets further out
> of sync with the private one.
>
> There is some need to consider acting quickly:
>
...
>
> Before I strike out on this path alone, which, I understand, may sound
> a bit radical, I want to hear what you all think.
>
Hi!
On 7 Feb 2012, at 17:50, Clint Byrum wrote:
> So, here is a suggested plan, given the facts above:
>
> * Upload mariadb 5.3 to Debian experimental, with it providing
> mysql-server, mysql-client, and libmysqlclient-dev.
>
> * For Ubuntu users, upload these packages to a PPA for testing
> ap
Hi!
On 7 Feb 2012, at 18:26, Chris Manns wrote:
> I don't know if this will post but I was working on RHEL approving MariaDB. I
> had long discussion with what seemed to be smart folk with RPM packaging on
> IRC, I'd need to present it on a mailing list and really find what they
> wanted. Not
I don't know if this will post but I was working on RHEL approving MariaDB.
I had long discussion with what seemed to be smart folk with RPM packaging
on IRC, I'd need to present it on a mailing list and really find what they
wanted. Not too hard of a path.
In my honest opinion having MariaDB and
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 09:50, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Well there is a Jenkins to MySQL's Hudson, a LibreOffice to their
> OpenOffice.
Gee, really?! You promise? Like, really honest?! Man i could've sworn
i had never joined a mailing list called maria-discuss!
Got anything new and interesting to say
Many of us in the Free and Open Source software community have seen a
trend regarding Oracle's stewardship of Open source software that it
inherited when it purchased Sun. In particular there were two fairly
large public project blow ups that resulted in OpenOffice splintering,
and the Hudson commu
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