Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Esterkin
All I am asking for is this: Please, do not substitute packages. Let mysql-server.deb retain its origin. Please, add MariaDB under a different name and let the end users decide whether they want to stick with the Oracle's MySQL or to switch to using MariaDB. If MariaDB is better, faster, more s

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alex Yurchenko's message of Fri Feb 17 05:57:03 -0800 2012: > Finally! A post that makes all wrong points! > > On 2012-02-17 11:53, Björn Boschman wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > > > Am 16.02.2012 19:33, schrieb Alex Esterkin: > >> As an end user, I would most strongly dislike this. You cle

Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of Tue Feb 07 01:50:18 -0800 2012: > Many of us in the Free and Open Source software community have seen a > trend regarding Oracle's stewardship of Open source software that it > inherited when it purchased Sun. In particular there were two fairly > large public

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Yurchenko
Finally! A post that makes all wrong points! On 2012-02-17 11:53, Björn Boschman wrote: Hi Alex, Am 16.02.2012 19:33, schrieb Alex Esterkin: As an end user, I would most strongly dislike this. You clearly don't understand how corporate users think and operate, how they work with open source

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Axel Schwenke
Henrik Ingo wrote: > > For completeness, let me also defend Oracle for a change :-) There's > also the 3rd option: > > * Stay with MySQL and blindly apply the updates that Oracle continues > to release as GPL. > But to put things in context, in MySQL 5.0 series the situation was > the opposit

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! > "Henrik" == Henrik Ingo writes: Henrik> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Walter Heck wrote: >> As for MariaDB, I like their much more community driven development >> that seems less commercially driven, Henrik> ... >> At this point I think MariaDB would probably be a better match f

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Henrik Ingo
2012/2/17 Björn Boschman : > This leads us to the following options: >  * Stay with MySQL but no security nor bugfixes >  * Search for an alternative which is even 100% compatible with MySQL + > having full community support For completeness, let me also defend Oracle for a change :-) There's also

Re: [Maria-discuss] [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Björn Boschman
Hi Alex, Am 16.02.2012 19:33, schrieb Alex Esterkin: As an end user, I would most strongly dislike this. You clearly don't understand how corporate users think and operate, how they work with open source technologies, and how they plan and evolve their technical roadmaps. I think I understand