Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop
Hi, thanks to all that answered my question. I guess I'm going one MTA with ECC only and one with RSA certificate and keep an eye on the logs. Inbound-problems should either reflect in the TLS reports or the plaintext delivery should rise and outbound delivery should generate errors/NDRs. Dual

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Michael Grimm via mailop
Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:08:19PM +, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: >> On 18.11.2024 at 13:33 Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote: >>> is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something >>> thats a common thing nowadays or does that inv

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Slavko via mailop
On 18. novembra 2024 12:33:07 UTC, "Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop" wrote: >Hi all, > >is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something thats a >common thing nowadays or does that involes the risk of not being reached via >SMTP TLS at all from the majority of senders? In most

Re: [mailop] Yahoo/AOL pipelining, was Delivery Issues as of November 11th.

2024-11-18 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Michael Peddemors via mailop said: >However, not sure you should use pipelining .. Given that almost every >system out there now does inline rejection, at various SMTP verbs, >pipelining is not helping your cause.. I think you're misunderstanding how pipelining works. It just l

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 18.11.2024 at 13:33 Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote: > is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something thats a > common thing nowadays or does that involes the risk of not being reached via > SMTP TLS at all from the majority of senders? This is a certificate currently

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:08:19PM +, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: > On 18.11.2024 at 13:33 Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote: > > is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something > > thats a common thing nowadays or does that involes the risk of not > > being reached

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Geert Hendrickx via mailop skrev den 2024-11-18 17:16: just for your info: Authentication-Results mx.junc.eu (amavisd-new); dkim=fail reason="fail (bad Ed25519 signature)" header.d=hendrickx.be header.b="2WYN/UVz"; dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=hen

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 05:16:44PM +0100, Geert Hendrickx via mailop wrote: > I think most of those, at least including gmail.com, use dual (ECC+RSA) > certs, typically with preference for ECC, so "support ECC" doesn't mean > "not support RSA". Indeed I have little visibility on dual cert servers

[mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop
Hi all, is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something thats a common thing nowadays or does that involes the risk of not being reached via SMTP TLS at all from the majority of senders? Regards Norbert smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Tapio Peltonen via mailop
I've used ECC certificates for years and have had no problems whatsoever. On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 at 14:38, Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > is using ECC certificates for SMTP TLS (sending/receiving) something thats a > common thing nowadays or does that involes the risk of no

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Geert Hendrickx via mailop
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 00:48:48 +1100, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: > Top 10 TLS protocol/cipher/cert choices among DANE MX hosts seen by the > survey (https://stats.dnssec-tools.org): > > 30421 TLS 1.3 with TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,X25519,PubKeyALG_RSA > --> 3738 TLS 1.3 with

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 03:02:59PM +0100, Michael Grimm via mailop wrote: > > +1. Saving a few bytes transmitting certs is not that compelling with > > SMTP, so there's a reasonable case for sticking with RSA. > > Or provide both RSA and ECC certificates if the MTA in question supports it > [1]

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread LANEL, JEAN BAPTISTE via mailop
Hello, That log is about a DKIM fail, not linked with a TLS certificate issue I think. JB -Message d'origine- De : mailop De la part de Benny Pedersen via mailop Envoyé : Monday, November 18, 2024 5:43 PM À : mailop@mailop.org Objet : Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS Caution!

Re: [mailop] ECC Certificate for SMTP TLS

2024-11-18 Thread Bo Frost Larsson via mailop
Hi all, From personal experience I can tell you that several Danish governmental agencies only use RSA certificates. Best, Bo On 18 Nov 2024, at 18.32, LANEL, JEAN BAPTISTE via mailop wrote: Hello, That log is about a DKIM fail, not linked with a TLS certificate issue I think. JB