Re: [mailop] Hotmail and 4.5.1 4.7.500 Server Busy with some

2017-11-03 Thread Maarten Oelering
We are seeing this error on specific sender IPs. So “Server busy” may be intentionally and dependent on the sender. There are also many versions of this error, with at least 6 different AS codes. Some occur after MAIL FROM, some occur after RCPT TO, and some occur after DATA. Previously Hotma

Re: [mailop] mail.ru google and DMARC

2017-11-03 Thread Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop
> disagree with Vladimir that ARC requires a whitelist for trust, using > a whitelist is certainly how I expect smaller operators and folks > running their own servers to work.  We think it's possible for an > operator with sufficient mail volume to programmatically learn > mailflows, assign reputa

Re: [mailop] About the Certified Senders Alliance

2017-11-03 Thread Alexander Zeh
Hello Grant, thanks for your thoughts. Basically that applies to everybody on this list. I will bring that information about gmail and the clipping of mails into account when he next review of the criteria is due. I was a bit careful when talking about the details how we need to optimise the fe

Re: [mailop] mail.ru google and DMARC

2017-11-03 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:24 AM Vladimir Dubrovin wrote: > disagree with Vladimir that ARC requires a whitelist for trust, using a > whitelist is certainly how I expect smaller operators and folks running > their own servers to work. We think it's possible for an operator with > sufficient mail v