Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
Michelle wrote: > Ok first I'm going to apologise to Bryan for being abrasive my nature is to > be suspicious of anyone who publicly criticizes SORBS whilst hiding the > cause/listing details and making claims of legitimacy. I thank those who > took part in the thread that gave support directl

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Large Hadron Collider
obviously. They have the right to refuse mail, but in the case of SORBS' overblocking, they probably don't intend to. On 2017-01-07 10:33 AM, D'Arcy Cain wrote: On 2017-01-07 01:05 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: Moreover, Federal law *specifically* grants that right to ISPs (refusing anybo

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 1/8/17 4:04 PM, Large Hadron Collider wrote: obviously. They have the right to refuse mail, but in the case of SORBS' overblocking, they probably don't intend to. SORBS blocks nothing and refuses no mail. Receiving ISPs do those things. If the ISP chooses to use SORBS as a filter, then by d

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread David Sgro, Dataspindle
I have always hated the argument that "RBL's don’t block email". While technically its true, you being listed in the RBL is 100% the cause of your problem and it is not the ISP/receiving server admin's fault. It makes no sense and would be futile to contact everyone you email, see if they use a

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 1/8/17 5:11 PM, David Sgro, Dataspindle wrote: I have always hated the argument that "RBL's don’t block email". Haters gotta hate. :-) Happens to be true, though. While technically its true, you being listed in the RBL is 100% the cause of your problem and it is not the ISP/receiving serv

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Dave Warren
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 17:53, Jay Hennigan wrote: > Having a bad credit score is 100% of your problem if you can't get a > loan, and 99% of the time your bad credit score isn't the fault of the > credit bureau. You earned that bad credit score (or RBL listing). This is a good analogy though, as

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

2017-01-08 Thread Luke Martinez via mailop
Receivers rely on RBLs to help prevent unwanted mail from getting through to recipients. There is (or should be) some understanding that utilizing an RBL will result in bad mail being blocked, and good mail not being blocked. In this respect, SORBS is pretty good. Plenty of false positives (by that