Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-07 Thread Vick Khera
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > In a perfect world, there would be an aliases interface as a simpler way > to set this up. Using this maintains the sender, doesn't add list-* > headers, lets DKIM still pass, etc. No kidding! 99.44% of my groups are just there

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:52 PM, G. Miliotis wrote: > On 6/4/2016 20:27, Vick Khera wrote: > >> I use google groups for those things. You can have as many of those as >> you like, and they can be configured as shared mailboxes or even a simple >> ticketing system. >> > Jut noting that I have done

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread G. Miliotis
On 6/4/2016 20:27, Vick Khera wrote: I use google groups for those things. You can have as many of those as you like, and they can be configured as shared mailboxes or even a simple ticketing system. Jut noting that I have done this and the spam controls for google groups are not the best. You

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread Vick Khera
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > I would, if I could pay for just the actual users. Sadly, I have too many > other things that need mailboxes and/or accounts for other purposes and I > just can't justify paying for each of them. > I use google groups for those things. You can

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Well, free edition should be limited to 5 accounts, but yeah, $300/year is pricey for consumers, no doubt about that. And I wouldn't call Gmail hobbled, it's just more similar to the consumer version, doesn't add the bells & whistles of the paid version. Though, when you're used to running your o

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I have the old one with 50 accounts. And "hobbled" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I do run my own servers and I am used to having all sorts of flexibility :) However, hobbled feels right since the features already exist, they're just... well... -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I would, if I could pay for just the actual users. Sadly, I have too many other things that need mailboxes and/or accounts for other purposes and I just can't justify paying for each of them. Instead, I just keep Gmail disabled and only use the features that aren't hobbled. On 2016-04-05 11:

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I've tried to make the argument before, I can ping the thread again, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'd probably get the consumer version out first, we'll have to make sure that works with free apps domains as well. I know I'm paying for full Google apps for my personal domain after missing too many o

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Holland
On 2 April 2016 at 00:59, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > Google Apps admins can specify incoming gateways, and we will treat the mail > from them differently because we know it is being forwarded. "This feature is not available in the legacy free edition of Google Apps." I know us freeloaders

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2016-04-02 at 09:58 +1000, Ted Cooper wrote: > Is this another one of those fun DNSSEC issues? I'm not particularly > good at reading these, but it looks like the PTR lookup is denied > existence at 136.in-addr.arpa. > http://dnsviz.net/d/25

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Ted Cooper
On 02/04/16 07:51, Michael Wise wrote: > Well, from **MY** perch, everything looks good… > No SPF record, but that’s not what they appear to be complaining about. > Dunno, sorry. > > $ host 136.243.119.250 > 250.119.243.136.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web11.kk-software.de. > > $ host web11.k

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
> > > *From:* Brandon Long [mailto:bl...@google.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 4:45 PM > *To:* Michael Wise > *Cc:* Pascal Herbert ; m...@pixelgate.net; > mailop@mailop.org > > *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit > > > > Hmm, I thought the new ser

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
n-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Brandon Long [mailto:bl...@google.com] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 4:45 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Pascal Herbert ; m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Hmm, I thought the new server went out with the updated error mes

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
he Junk Mail Reporting Tool > <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? > > > > *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *Pascal > Herbert > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 2:45 PM > *To:* m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org >

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
p.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Herbert Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 2:45 PM To: m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Forgot to mention that. The server only uses ipv4. No ipv6. Pascal On Apr 1, 2016 23:42, "Mark Milhollan" mailto:m...@pixelgate.net&g

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
8275> ? From: Pascal Herbert [mailto:pascal.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 2:48 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Domain is web11.kk-software.de<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fweb11.kk-softw

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Pascal Herbert
Domain is web11.kk-software.de IP 136.243.119.250 On Apr 1, 2016 23:37, "Michael Wise" wrote: > > > Always best with such questions if you just come right out and say what > the IP is and what you think the rDNS is. > > Because sooner or later, we’re gonna require that in order to help you. > >

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Pascal Herbert
Forgot to mention that. The server only uses ipv4. No ipv6. Pascal On Apr 1, 2016 23:42, "Mark Milhollan" wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Pascal Herbert wrote: > > >Google is currently rejecting mails from some of our servers with: > >The IP address sending this message does not have a PTR record.

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Vick Khera
Did you check the DNS remotely (there are lots of public servers to probe) vs at your own DNS servers? Providing a real example would help others help you, as clearly something is wrong somewhere. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Pascal Herbert wrote: > Hallo, > Google is currently rejecting mai

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
Always best with such questions if you just come right out and say what the IP is and what you think the rDNS is. Because sooner or later, we’re gonna require that in order to help you. So putting it in the original post is … a really good idea, IMHO. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microso