Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-05 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
>> Recipient's budget to deal with your delivery problems: zero. That is reminiscent of a quote from John Levine, although I don't have it handy. It's also reminiscent of how we try to educate our certification customers. ;-) Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO/President ISIPP SuretyMail Email R

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-05 Thread Franck Martin
On May 5, 2015, at 8:15 AM, John Levine wrote: > Found it, post to the dmarc-discuss list in June 2012: > I think you have said that before (like at M3AAWG), may be the first time you put it in writing... signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail _

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-05 Thread John Levine
Found it, post to the dmarc-discuss list in June 2012: Date: 22 Jun 2012 19:47:53 - From: "John Levine" To: dmarc-disc...@dmarc.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] How does *this* mailing list interact with dmarc? >If big providers started using "d="/"s=" would it fail to interoperate >with t

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-05 Thread John Levine
>The total budget at all receivers for solving senders' problems is $0. >If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you want, >send it the way the spec says to. --John Levine Gee, I'm famous. If only I could remember where I said that. It's not in my blog. R's, John ___

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-05 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 03:15:16PM +1000, Ted Cooper wrote: > Mail server in question is an EC2 instance, generic PTR, greeting with > .internal version, sending from different hostname level domain which > doesn't accept bounces, no SPF/DKIM, a from address that is NXDOMAIN, > with malformed multi

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-04 Thread Ted Cooper
On 05/05/15 12:14, Dave Pooser wrote: > From Todd Lyons' .sig: > > The total budget at all receivers for solving senders' problems is $0. > If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you want, > send it the way the spec says to. --John Levine That is the one, thank you! I knew I'd

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-04 Thread Dave Pooser
On 5/4/15, 8:40 PM, "Ted Cooper" wrote: > What I can remember went something >like this: > >>Recipient's budget to deal with your delivery problems: zero. > >Does that ring any bells for anyone? Link to the source? >From Todd Lyons' .sig: The total budget at all receivers for solving senders' p

Re: [mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-04 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
This is probably a quote from the old spam-l mailing list or nanae, if you were around then - I haven’t been on those for over a decade. > On 05-May-2015, at 7:10 am, Ted Cooper wrote: > >> >> Recipient's budget to deal with your delivery problems: zero. > > Does that ring any bells for anyon

[mailop] Sourcing an email related quote

2015-05-04 Thread Ted Cooper
Hi all, Many moons ago, someone related to email said something which stuck in my head and gave me a giggle. I know kinda how it went, but now that I've tried to search for it and quot the person who said, I'm having no luck at all. The quote was related to delivery problems and how it is the sen