Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-21 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-08-21 at 09:23 +0200, Norbert Bollow via mailop wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 10:03:48 +0300 Lena wrote: > > > > I have searched a few emails, but fail to see why they would be a > > > target. Maybe only a few of them are the real targets, with other > > > addresses being added in order to

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-21 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2020-08-21 03:23, Norbert Bollow via mailop wrote: Maybe the idea behind that bot is that filling in the "email" field with a real-looking email address might lead to being granted read access to mailing list archives which could then be scraped for email addresses to increase the target list

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-21 Thread Norbert Bollow via mailop
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 10:03:48 +0300 Lena--- via mailop wrote: > > I have searched a few emails, but fail to see why they would be a > > target. Maybe only a few of them are the real targets, with other > > addresses being added in order to conceal those? > > I suspect that the bot is spamming r

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-21 Thread Lena--- via mailop
> I have searched a few emails, but fail to see why they would be a > target. Maybe only a few of them are the real targets, with other > addresses being added in order to conceal those? I suspect that the bot is spamming random web-forms like various bots try to spam my guestbook with ads with li

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-20 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2020-08-19 at 19:49 +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2020-08-19 17:51:51 (+0800), Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted > > subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. > > There's so far been 160 attempt

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-20 Thread Marlen Caemmerer via mailop
Hey, my initial check was Aug 18 09:50:53 2020 (7596) berlin: pending lywlo...@gmail.com 202.211.87.136 The IP comes from Japan with the same user agent. These were the next requests on my host: Aug 18 10:36:56 2020 (14780) kamikaze: pending fislisrb...@outlook.com 182.30.40.234 Aug 18 12:

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-20 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
After having thwarted additional attacks (thanks for the hint about SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET!) I looked at our mailman logs to see if everything is quiet now, and to find patterns. Apparently the initial check was from a serbian IP address: Aug 18 10:01:55 2020 (8184) : pending mmc49...@eoopy.com 

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 07:53:43PM +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2020-08-19 18:24:30 (+0800), Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote: > >BTW, Mailman mm_cfg.py option `SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET` apparently mitigates > >the DoS, too. > > We've also had some success in the past with raisin

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2020-08-19 18:24:30 (+0800), Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 09:51, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. (...) I can confirm this for my serv

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2020-08-19 17:51:51 (+0800), Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. There's so far been 160 attempted subscriptions for 69 unique email addresses. I see some of this on F

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Marlen Caemmerer via mailop
Hello, seeing this here, too. But I did only receive a small number of requests (about 100 in the last day). Every IP I find in the logs connects only once to try to subscribe. The IP addresses are registered for 5 different providers in the US. Thanks for the UserAgent workaround. Cheers

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 12:24 +0200, Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 09:51, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > > Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted > > subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. > > (...) > > I can conf

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Andreas Schamanek via mailop
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 09:51, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. (...) I can confirm this for my servers from top to end including some of the hashes. BTW, Mailman m

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 19.08.20 um 11:51 schrieb Andy Smith via mailop: > Hi, > > Not sure if this is the best place to mention this, but… > > Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted > subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. > There's so far been 160 attempted subscript

[mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, Not sure if this is the best place to mention this, but… Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. There's so far been 160 attempted subscriptions for 69 unique email addresses. These addresses never compl