Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread John R Levine via mailop
On Fri, 17 May 2024, Brandon Long wrote: I don't know anyone who uses BINARYMIME. Microsoft's MTAs say they do but I've never tried to see if it works. We did some testing with it and got some really inconsistent end to end responses even from services which advertised it. The idea of saving

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 4:18 PM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Brandon Long via mailop said: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >RFC 3030 which provides for the BDAT command and BINARYMIME which treats > >the message not as text at all > >and so I wouldn't expect that that text limit woul

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Brandon Long via mailop said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >RFC 3030 which provides for the BDAT command and BINARYMIME which treats >the message not as text at all >and so I wouldn't expect that that text limit would apply, though the RFC >doesn't discuss any limits. It says that

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
RFC 3030 which provides for the BDAT command and BINARYMIME which treats the message not as text at all and so I wouldn't expect that that text limit would apply, though the RFC doesn't discuss any limits. In general, I don't see much utility in limiting the length of lines in the body of messages

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
Thank you all for the feedback. I absolutely agree with you Olivier, this makes complete sense! Cyril - ImprovMX Le vendredi 17 mai 2024 à 10:42, Gellner, Oliver via mailop a écrit : > On 17.05.2024 at 08:48 Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > > > I've got an email from one of my user tell

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 17.05.2024 um 17:51:33 Uhr schrieb Andre van Eyssen via mailop: > Turns out *some* mail platforms cope with having binaries just > stuffed into the mail and some silently fail. The postmasters who allow non-standard e-mail are the problem here. If every MTA rejected such messages, the origin w

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 17.05.2024 at 08:48 Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > I've got an email from one of my user telling me our server refused an email > because of a line too long. > The issue is referenced in the RFC at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5321#section-4.5.3.1.6 and we follow > and re

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Andre van Eyssen via mailop
On Fri, 17 May 2024, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: I would not have raised this question here except that the user recently moved from Cloudflare to us, and they shared with us a past email sent by Sendgrid, that went through Cloudflare, and landed in their gmail inbox successfully, **des

Re: [mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread ml+mailop--- via mailop
On Fri, May 17, 2024, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > So, I wonder, is there another RFC that specifies a bigger line length, No. > or are the RFC here just for decoration? "We don't care. We don't have to. We are the phone company". Of course you could argue to "be nice and accept invali

[mailop] Line too long

2024-05-17 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
Hi everyone! I've got an email from one of my user telling me our server refused an email because of a line too long. The issue is referenced in the RFC at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5321#section-4.5.3.1.6 and we follow and respect that recommandation. I would not have raised thi