Re: [mailop] Hen and egg problem with Talos

2021-07-07 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 07.07.21 23:12, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: >> Encourage transparent 2FA, and options like country auth restrictions, >> blocking AUTH from cloud providers/hosting companies known for being a >> haven for those types of attacks, (should make a blog post on best >> practices for authenticati

Re: [mailop] Hen and egg problem with Talos

2021-07-07 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 7/7/21 13:08, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: [snip] You should consider adding some AUTH protections of course, to mitigate compromised accounts, and better detection/rate limiters for when they do. Encourage transparent 2FA, and options like country auth restrictions, blocking AUTH

Re: [mailop] Hen and egg problem with Talos

2021-07-07 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 07.07.21 22:08, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > Start by including the IP(s) you are discussing ;) mx-out-01.fh-muenster.de [185.149.214.63] mx-out-02.fh-muenster.de [212.201.120.206] > Compromised accounts are indeed the bane of the responsible > administrator, and as you can see.. the

Re: [mailop] Hen and egg problem with Talos

2021-07-07 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Start by including the IP(s) you are discussing ;) Compromised accounts are indeed the bane of the responsible administrator, and as you can see.. the rate limiting systems ARE essential, you are unlikely to suffer a reputation issue, if only a few escape (unless they have REALLY bad content,

[mailop] Hen and egg problem with Talos

2021-07-07 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
Hey guys, I have to take the walk of shame and report a spam outbreak on my systems because of a phished user account and a loophole in the rate limiting we do. As soon as we got notifed, we stopped and cleaned the queues, blocked the user, investigated the cause and fixed the rate limiting befor