Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-07 Thread Vick Khera
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > In a perfect world, there would be an aliases interface as a simpler way > to set this up. Using this maintains the sender, doesn't add list-* > headers, lets DKIM still pass, etc. No kidding! 99.44% of my groups are just there

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:52 PM, G. Miliotis wrote: > On 6/4/2016 20:27, Vick Khera wrote: > >> I use google groups for those things. You can have as many of those as >> you like, and they can be configured as shared mailboxes or even a simple >> ticketing system. >> > Jut noting that I have done

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread G. Miliotis
On 6/4/2016 20:27, Vick Khera wrote: I use google groups for those things. You can have as many of those as you like, and they can be configured as shared mailboxes or even a simple ticketing system. Jut noting that I have done this and the spam controls for google groups are not the best. You

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-06 Thread Vick Khera
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > I would, if I could pay for just the actual users. Sadly, I have too many > other things that need mailboxes and/or accounts for other purposes and I > just can't justify paying for each of them. > I use google groups for those things. You can

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Well, free edition should be limited to 5 accounts, but yeah, $300/year is pricey for consumers, no doubt about that. And I wouldn't call Gmail hobbled, it's just more similar to the consumer version, doesn't add the bells & whistles of the paid version. Though, when you're used to running your o

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I have the old one with 50 accounts. And "hobbled" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I do run my own servers and I am used to having all sorts of flexibility :) However, hobbled feels right since the features already exist, they're just... well... -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I would, if I could pay for just the actual users. Sadly, I have too many other things that need mailboxes and/or accounts for other purposes and I just can't justify paying for each of them. Instead, I just keep Gmail disabled and only use the features that aren't hobbled. On 2016-04-05 11:

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I've tried to make the argument before, I can ping the thread again, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'd probably get the consumer version out first, we'll have to make sure that works with free apps domains as well. I know I'm paying for full Google apps for my personal domain after missing too many o

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Holland
On 2 April 2016 at 00:59, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > Google Apps admins can specify incoming gateways, and we will treat the mail > from them differently because we know it is being forwarded. "This feature is not available in the legacy free edition of Google Apps." I know us freeloaders

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2016-04-02 at 09:58 +1000, Ted Cooper wrote: > Is this another one of those fun DNSSEC issues? I'm not particularly > good at reading these, but it looks like the PTR lookup is denied > existence at 136.in-addr.arpa. > http://dnsviz.net/d/25

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Ted Cooper
On 02/04/16 07:51, Michael Wise wrote: > Well, from **MY** perch, everything looks good… > No SPF record, but that’s not what they appear to be complaining about. > Dunno, sorry. > > $ host 136.243.119.250 > 250.119.243.136.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web11.kk-software.de. > > $ host web11.k

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
> > > *From:* Brandon Long [mailto:bl...@google.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 4:45 PM > *To:* Michael Wise > *Cc:* Pascal Herbert ; m...@pixelgate.net; > mailop@mailop.org > > *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit > > > > Hmm, I thought the new ser

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
n-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Brandon Long [mailto:bl...@google.com] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 4:45 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Pascal Herbert ; m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Hmm, I thought the new server went out with the updated error mes

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
he Junk Mail Reporting Tool > <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? > > > > *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *Pascal > Herbert > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 2:45 PM > *To:* m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org >

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
p.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Herbert Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 2:45 PM To: m...@pixelgate.net; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Forgot to mention that. The server only uses ipv4. No ipv6. Pascal On Apr 1, 2016 23:42, "Mark Milhollan" mailto:m...@pixelgate.net&g

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
8275> ? From: Pascal Herbert [mailto:pascal.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 2:48 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Domain is web11.kk-software.de<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fweb11.kk-softw

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Pascal Herbert
ail Reporting Tool > <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? > > > > *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] *On Behalf Of *Pascal > Herbert > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 2:20 PM > *To:* mailop@mailop.org > *Subject:* [mailo

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Pascal Herbert
Forgot to mention that. The server only uses ipv4. No ipv6. Pascal On Apr 1, 2016 23:42, "Mark Milhollan" wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Pascal Herbert wrote: > > >Google is currently rejecting mails from some of our servers with: > >The IP address sending this message does not have a PTR record.

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Vick Khera
Did you check the DNS remotely (there are lots of public servers to probe) vs at your own DNS servers? Providing a real example would help others help you, as clearly something is wrong somewhere. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Pascal Herbert wrote: > Hallo, > Google is currently rejecting mai

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Michael Wise
ailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Gmail rate limit Hallo, Google is currently rejecting mails from some of our servers with: The IP address sending this message does not have a PTR record. To protect our users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily rate limited. t

[mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-01 Thread Pascal Herbert
Hallo, Google is currently rejecting mails from some of our servers with: The IP address sending this message does not have a PTR record. To protect our users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily rate limited. the IP has an PTR (webX.example.org) and matches the a-record.