Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Lena
> From: chris > We are simply trying to > design our systems so that when something happens like a customers account > getting compromised that once we can stop the cause that we can get the > customers mail flowing again and they arent stuck waiting hours and days > for each RBL to remove the li

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Steve Atkins
On Apr 7, 2015, at 9:55 AM, chris wrote: > We are not trying to avoid spam filters at all. We are simply trying to > design our systems so that when something happens like a customers account > getting compromised that once we can stop the cause that we can get the > customers mail flowing ag

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread chris
We are not trying to avoid spam filters at all. We are simply trying to design our systems so that when something happens like a customers account getting compromised that once we can stop the cause that we can get the customers mail flowing again and they arent stuck waiting hours and days for eac

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Steve Atkins
On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:30 AM, chris wrote: > Hello, > > I have a few linux webservers and which each send out SMTP directly . > Currently, the webservers all relay the message directly to receipient and if > it cant then it sends back a NDR to the sender advising the sender the > message could

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread chris
This looks promising. In answer to your question, forget the first part about direct smtp delivery (we have no intention to keep this long term this is just something we are playing with in our lab). Yes we want to have a small group of centralized SMTP servers and the main capability we are lookin

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Jim Dunphy
postfix has transport maps which would force delivery through another one of your servers so that might be part of your solution. You also might be able to do some manual requeuing and then restart the queues with a different sendmail.cf file to a smart host after direct connection has failed. For

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Johann Klasek
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:30:36AM -0400, chris wrote: > I have a few linux webservers and which each send out SMTP directly . > Currently, the webservers all relay the message directly to receipient and > if it cant then it sends back a NDR to the sender advising the sender the > message could not

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Johann Klasek
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 11:03:51AM -0400, chris wrote: > What do MX records have to do with outbound SMTP delivery? Do you mean that > if the webserver cant relay to to first MX record then try the secondary mx > records? This still has the primary server trying and many recipients dont > have mult

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread chris
What do MX records have to do with outbound SMTP delivery? Do you mean that if the webserver cant relay to to first MX record then try the secondary mx records? This still has the primary server trying and many recipients dont have multiple mx records or some that do dont always have them on differ

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread chris
Yes i understand but forget direct delivery for a minute and how do I get it so that if SMTP A cant relay then roll it over to SMTP B? I dont want to just load balance smtp.yourdomain.com with multiple IPs so that clients randomly choose a outbound server. I want it go down a group of servers and

Re: [mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:30:36AM -0400, chris wrote: > Hello, > > I have a few linux webservers and which each send out SMTP directly . > Currently, the webservers all relay the message directly to > receipient and if it cant then it sends back a NDR to the sender > advising the sender the messa

[mailop] Backup outbound SMTP relay design

2015-04-07 Thread chris
Hello, I have a few linux webservers and which each send out SMTP directly . Currently, the webservers all relay the message directly to receipient and if it cant then it sends back a NDR to the sender advising the sender the message could not be delivered. I want to scale this out a bit and add