Re: [mailop] Microsoft Announces Tenant Trusted ARC Seal

2022-06-20 Thread Paulo Pinto via mailop
and DKIM results become irrelevant, right ? So why bother having SPF and DKIM in the first place ? On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 1:19 PM Dave Crocker wrote: > > On 6/17/2022 6:17 AM, Paulo Pinto via mailop wrote: > > tldr; what ARC tries to address is already correctly handled by

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Announces Tenant Trusted ARC Seal

2022-06-17 Thread Paulo Pinto via mailop
tldr; what ARC tries to address is already correctly handled by DKIM/SPF/DMARC if used as designed. IMHO ARC seems to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The message passes through your network and you make changes to it in the process ? Sign it with DKIM on your edge/"last hop" server

Re: [mailop] gmail - pop3 retrieval checking SPF ? ( gmail, wth ? Take 2 )

2022-04-14 Thread Paulo Pinto via mailop
t directly. I don't think that would be a high > priority, however. > > When we rolled out the SPF checking for POP3, the rate of false positives > for spam handling for that mail stream improved significantly. I'm not > sure if anyone has done a recent evaluation of it. &g

Re: [mailop] gmail - pop3 retrieval checking SPF ? ( gmail, wth ? Take 2 )

2022-04-14 Thread Paulo Pinto via mailop
ail client. If this isn't wrong ... On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:09 PM Noel Butler via mailop wrote: > On 14/04/2022 01:02, Paulo Pinto via mailop wrote: > > Hi all. > > Why on earth is gmail checking the IP address of the message sender (ISP > assigned home address, for

[mailop] gmail - pop3 retrieval checking SPF ? ( gmail, wth ? Take 2 )

2022-04-13 Thread Paulo Pinto via mailop
Hi all. Why on earth is gmail checking the IP address of the message sender (ISP assigned home address, for instance) against the sender's domain SPF without the ability of checking if that original delivery was done using SMTP authentication ( hence voiding the need for that IP being part of the