> (...)
> If you ask me - a better solution would be to do away with forwarding
> completely and incorporate POP checks, like Gmail does. This alleviates
> all of the issues with forwarding mail in relation to SPF and DKIM.
> (...)
There are sevral projects using forwarding. The Debian Project
It appears that Brandon Long via mailop said:
>Unlike SPF, DKIM was only authentication, not policy. The policy portion
>was attempted via ADSP, but it suffered from the point that few enough
>people implemented DKIM and how to handle the cases where the message was
>modified.
ADSP was a preview
It appears that Scott Mutter via mailop said:
>But I know that stance is wildly unpopular since it breaks the "it used to
>work that way" narrative. ...
No, it's wildly unpopular because it is blaming the victim.
You might as well also say that every mailing list should shut down in favor
of Tik
> On 26.05.2023 at 10:10 Ken Peng via mailop wrote:
>
> Why some huge ISPs do not even have SPF for their sending domains?
> such as att.net and t-online.de.
> I know they may let their users to send email from home DSL via (no-auth)
> relay servers, but since the IPs (no matter relay server or h
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 12:34 PM Brandon Long wrote:
> When forwarding mail, there are two options: rewrite the envelope sender
> or not. There are a variety of pros and cons to both of them, and cases
> where one or the other is more prominent. Not rewriting has been the
> dominant form of 1:1
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:47 AM Scott Mutter via mailop
wrote:
> It just seems that if people would read the documentation for SPF and
> specify exactly what IP addresses are suppose to be sending email from your
> domain name (I mean... if you own that domain name, shouldn't you know what
> IP a
It just seems that if people would read the documentation for SPF and
specify exactly what IP addresses are suppose to be sending email from your
domain name (I mean... if you own that domain name, shouldn't you know what
IP addresses are going to be sending legitimate mail from that domain?)
then
Dnia 25.05.2023 o godz. 20:10:02 Scott Mutter via mailop pisze:
> So basically SPF is worthless. You can define all the IPs that legitimate
> mail for the domain should be coming from and exclude everything else with
> a -all and mail servers are just supposed to ignore that and look for a
> DMARC
Ken Peng via mailop writes:
> Hello,
>
> Why some huge ISPs do not even have SPF for their sending domains?
> such as att.net and t-online.de.
> I know they may let their users to send email from home DSL via (no-auth)
> relay servers, but since the IPs (no matter relay server or home IP) are
> a
