Re: [mailop] two openssl (in OpenDKIM) questions for the masses

On 2022-09-16 05:44:50 (+0800), Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: I'm attempting to get a point release of OpenDKIM out that should include ecc key support (it's been in our develop branch for a while). In doing the cleanup, I also have had to modernize it to play nice with modern versions

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

It appears that Michael Ellis via mailop said: >Anyone have a suggestion for a good cloud email provider with good >deliverability and control over their customers? My suggestions would be Fastmail and Tucows' white label mail. For Tucows you need to be (or find) a reseller but there are a lot o

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

On 9/20/22 13:59, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 1:42 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Is there an option to disable that behavior? https://support.google.com/mail/answer/10079371

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

My thanks to everyone who replied! I have offered the suggestions How I mentioned I love the collegiate atmosphere here? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Long via mailop Sent: September 20, 2022 5:00 PM To: Jay Hennigan Cc: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] E

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 1:42 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > On 9/20/22 13:19, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > > otoh, if that's not what they mean by "reading email", then I guess the > > rest of the smarts that read email are still there, as this article > > points out: > > > > > https:/

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

On 9/20/22 13:19, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: otoh, if that's not what they mean by "reading email", then I guess the rest of the smarts that read email are still there, as this article points out: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-emails-1202477321/

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

I'd look at Fastmail. That's where I'd go if I wanted to avoid Google, and if I didn't want to set up my own server. Cheers, Al On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 2:59 PM Michael Ellis via mailop wrote: > > Anyone have a suggestion for a good cloud email provider with good > deliverability and control ove

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

While I doubt our say so will have much affect, Gmail hasn't scanned email for ads since 2017, and that was consumer, GSuite/Workspace/GAFYD/etc I think didn't have it ever, though there were versions of that (EDU and for ISPs) that may have (looks like EDU was disabled in 2014) https://blog.googl

[mailop] Email Cloud Providers

Anyone have a suggestion for a good cloud email provider with good deliverability and control over their customers? My client asked and said: The big three seem to be Google, Microsoft, or Amazon. I expect that Google would be good but they are the most expensive and I have concerns about them

Re: [mailop] two openssl (in OpenDKIM) questions for the masses

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: All, I'm attempting to get a point release of OpenDKIM out that should include ecc key support (it's been in our develop branch for a while). In doing the cleanup, I also have had to modernize it to play nice with modern versions of

Re: [mailop] two openssl (in OpenDKIM) questions for the masses

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 02:44:50PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: [..] > Thus the questions: > > * Does anyone know of an OS packager that's choosing to build with gnutls > instead of openssl. (It would simplify autoconf a lot to remove the > gnutls support, as there are AC macros

Re: [mailop] ARC, was DMARC Stockholm syndrome, Reject vs spam folders

On Mon 19/Sep/2022 21:17:29 +0200 John R Levine via mailop wrote: haven't experienced that. ... but even at the big gorillas they are not yet using it to fix mailing list filtering mistakes. >> Arc's biggest problem is that nobody trusts it, because it's a second party sender. I.e. why should