Re: [mailop] Who is Mine/SayMine.com?

2022-08-01 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2022-08-01 23:43:57 (+0800), Jenny Nespola via mailop wrote: Is mine/saymine.com a legitimate company? We're getting a number of requests daily, all following the same template swapping out the email and name of the recipient. If they're a legitimate company, they are certainly part of the

[mailop] Increase in connection issues with eBay emails

2022-08-01 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing the same recently. I've recently begun seeing a bunch of these in my exim logs: 2022-08-01 21:26:14 SSL_write: (from mxphxpool2075.ebay.com [66.211.185.238]) syscall: Connection reset by peer 2022-08-01 21:26:14 SMTP connection from mxphxpool2075.ebay.com

Re: [mailop] Who is Mine/SayMine.com?

2022-08-01 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Jenny Nespola via mailop : >Hi all, > >Is mine/saymine.com a legitimate company? We're getting a number of >requests daily, all following the same template swapping out the email and >name of the recipient. > >For the few that I checked, I do not see them in our DB. Is the goal to >phi

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I would caution against assuming that legal analysis is required to match technical analysis. At the least, any legal proceedings would involve a lot of argument over exactly what the words in the statute mean, what the intent of the legislature was, and whether reasonable attempts were made to me

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 8/1/22 9:59 AM, WIlliam Fisher via mailop wrote: This is purely a "punish big tech for us not following rules" bill. Any time someone says / implies "do what I say, not what I do" I become highly suspicious of the veracity of their statement. If the laws aren't good enough for you, then t

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread WIlliam Fisher via mailop
They don't care. This is purely a "punish big tech for us not following rules" bill. On 8/1/22 8:46 AM, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: On 2022-08-01 at 05:12:01 UTC-0400 (Mon, 1 Aug 2022 11:12:01 +0200) Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop is rumored to have said: Dnia  1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Mal

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread WIlliam Fisher via mailop
There is a definite bias in American political e-mail, but it has nothing to do with actual politics. Blue e-mail tends to follow best sending practices, mostly uses good carriers, etc.  (I said mostly) Red e-mail tends to not follow best practices, use the cheapest and less reputable carrie

[mailop] Who is Mine/SayMine.com?

2022-08-01 Thread Jenny Nespola via mailop
Hi all, Is mine/saymine.com a legitimate company? We're getting a number of requests daily, all following the same template swapping out the email and name of the recipient. For the few that I checked, I do not see them in our DB. Is the goal to phish or just annoy or something else I am not thin

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
On 2022-07-30 21:07, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote: > > I think in this case we all know what they're doing and you've hit it dead > on. They're targeting Gmail and they're not really interested in anyone else. Which is one reason the bill may not go any further, because now that Google ha

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:29 PM, Laura Atkins via mailop > wrote: > > The research paper seems reasonably well done and I encourage people to > actually read it and their conclusions rather than paying attention to the > popular press takes on it. Totally agreed and, in fact, my understandin

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2022-08-01 at 05:12:01 UTC-0400 (Mon, 1 Aug 2022 11:12:01 +0200) Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop is rumored to have said: Dnia 1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Malm via mailop pisze: But the only way you can get gmail to "use a filtering algorithm to apply a label" would be for yourself to "take

Re: [mailop] HR 8160 and SB 4409: The "You're not allowed to run political campaign email through your spam filter" act

2022-08-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Malm via mailop pisze: > > But the only way you can get gmail to "use a filtering algorithm to apply a > label" would be for yourself to "take action to apply such a label" by > creating a filter yourself... Gmail doesn't apply labels to spam, it places > the s