Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2022-03-21 at 15:28:28 UTC-0400 (Mon, 21 Mar 2022 20:28:28 +0100) Sebastian Nielsen via mailop is rumored to have said: Im talking about matching MAIL FROM (which is hidden from user, but authenticated via SPF/DKIM) DKIM does not authenticate the MAIL FROM (envelope sender) address. It pr

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2022-03-21 at 14:43:46 UTC-0400 (Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:43:46 +0100) Sebastian Nielsen via mailop is rumored to have said: The best solution I would propose, is that Email should slowly transitition to a requirement that the address inside "MAIL FROM:" and "From:" header in mime data, *must* e

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
Pretty convincing??? To whom ? I cannot be the only one who is instantly de-convinced by English text that was clearly not written by a native English speaker. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently A

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Multi-Party Delivery Issues to Microsoft

2022-03-21 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
To discuss? No. Recipient needs to open a bug with Customer Support. But please keep in mind that voicemail to email gateways are a common smokescreen for phish and malware. It's become somewhat of a nuisance. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spa

[mailop] Multi-Party Delivery Issues to Microsoft

2022-03-21 Thread Rob Heilman via mailop
Is Michael or anyone else on the list from Microsoft available to discuss a delivery issue we are having to Microsoft hosted domains? The short, short version is that users on Microsoft/Outlook/O365 services are not getting legit messages from Voicemail-to-Email mail flows. The messages are ac

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>>Seriously? Using Hotmail/Google is NOT FREE.. It is. They earn the money on ads, but the ad cost cannot swallow a fine. That would mean they would need some way to reimburse the fine from the end user, meaning you would need to have a credit rating as it would count as a loan agreement, requ

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
On 2022-03-21 11:43, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: But if Microsoft got fined for every phishing email that escaped This would QUICKLY kill every free email service, and every email service would become pay-only, to cope with the fines. Propably with obligation-to-pay contracts too, s

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>> But if Microsoft got fined for every phishing email that escaped This would QUICKLY kill every free email service, and every email service would become pay-only, to cope with the fines. Propably with obligation-to-pay contracts too, so they can forward the fine down to the user that sent the

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
Is this another one of those "research" things where someone does evil and then claims to have good motives? That website renam.md kind of seems like it. On 2022-03-21 11:57, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: Authenticated from FastHosts.. Source: Received: from mail.renam.md (HELO mail.re

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
Of course its important to check WHO is sending the email too, not just that its signed. The email is obviously not from ICANN. Of course it authenticates correctly as the sender it claims to be, as that’s the truth. Authentication – checking that something is true and not false. For exampl

Re: [mailop] expected bounces from Russia?

2022-03-21 Thread Collider via mailop
A Russian government agency tasked with implementing the block could run a 5xx responder on port 25 if it had the IPs directed at it. On 10 March 2022 21:15:43 UTC, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: >On 3/10/22 12:22, Autumn Tyr-Salvia via mailop wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Given world events at the m

Re: [mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
I said years ago, when these policies came out (WDRP and then WAP) that they would accomplish nothing other than to provide a gift-wrapped phishing mechanism. - mark On 2022-03-21 12:57 PM, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > Authenticated from FastHosts.. > > Source: > > Received: from mail.re

[mailop] Pretty convincing ICANN renewal notice making the rounds..

2022-03-21 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Authenticated from FastHosts.. Source: Received: from mail.renam.md (HELO mail.renam.md) (81.180.84.189) -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.

Re: [mailop] Bogon? 81.70.92.213

2022-03-21 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 07:35:59AM +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: > Hi folks, > > in a trustworthy Received: line of a spam I found the source IP > 81.70.92.213. Strangely, this IP is pingable, and traceroute finds a > way, but neither the IP whois nor the BGP looking glass show to wh