Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 31 Aug 2016, at 21:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Kee Hinckley wrote: I haven't tried any of those solutions yet. I _did_ discover that the best way to deal with it is to hit cancel and then go reenable the account. Most of the time it then succeeds without the 400

[MlMt] The preview window got prudent

2016-09-01 Thread Vlad Ghitulescu
Hello! Since upgrading to Version 1.9.5 (5255) I've observed that the Markdown preview-window doesn't appear automatically under the message when coming back from BBEdit (which I use - via the "*Command > BBEdit*"-Menu, respectively a keyshortcut) anymore. Only after editing something in th

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Steve Mayer
Benny, Will you be making a Beta 2.0 as drop as well with the workaround? I'm experiencing this about 4 times a day. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 1:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 21:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Kee Hinckle

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:33, Steve Mayer wrote: Will you be making a Beta 2.0 as drop as well with the workaround? I'm experiencing this about 4 times a day. I don't yet have any feedback on whether the workaround actually works, but I've updated the 2.0 beta as well (hold down ⌥ when clicking

Re: [MlMt] The preview window got prudent

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:44, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: Since upgrading to Version 1.9.5 (5255) I've observed that the Markdown preview-window doesn't appear automatically under the message when coming back from BBEdit (which I use - via the "*Command > BBEdit*"-Menu, respectively a keyshortcut) anymo

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Kee Hinckley
On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really solve the problem. It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one with Jabber.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:30, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really solve the problem. It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with m

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread MacOSX Guru
I have 8 gmail accounts and they were all misbehaving with login issues. The latest update has solved the problem for me. macosxguru ___ MacOSX Guru Email: macosxg...@gmail.com Twitter: @macosxguru Web: http://ipadpedia.net On 1 Sep 2016, at 8:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Evans
It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one with Jabber. They all started at the same time. I'm trying to get the attention of someone at Google. I assume this also means that the workaround does not wo

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Steve Mayer
I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:16, Richard Evans wrote: It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one w

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Zivago Lee
Same here. On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:16, Richard Evans wrote: It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are havin

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 18:57, Zivago Lee wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. Same here. You can both try the following to provide me with more data: * Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0). * Wait for the issu

[MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Seebs
So, plain text emails are now displaying in a non-fixed-width font. This is not ideal. But I can't find a way to change it. There's a "theme for plain text emails is:" thing in preferences, which appears to have some very subtle effect on rendering. Also, there's a "show fonts" button in Font

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Rob McBroom
On 1 Sep 2016, at 13:46, Seebs wrote: So, plain text emails are now displaying in a non-fixed-width font. This is not ideal. But I can't find a way to change it. Do you have a custom stylesheet as described at https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization#css_plist ? Getting rid of mine se

[MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread John D. Muccigrosso
Here’s what I would like to happen when I click on the first message in a thread in my inbox, versus what does happen. The view I get in my inbox when there is such a thread is of the first message with the little sideways arrow next to it, so I can tell it’s got some replies. When I click on t

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread Billy Youdelman
On 1 Sep 2016, at 11:05, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: 2. If I delete that message while it’s open, no message is left selected. I’d rather the next message in the thread get selected. ...and opened, regardless if the message list is threaded. Yes, yes, yes - this would be extremely helpful for

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread aisrael
For point 1, you just press Alt at the same time, it opens the entire thread (it is a regular McOS command). Alain On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:05, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Here’s what I would like to happen when I click on the first message in a thread in my inbox, versus what does happen. The view

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread John D. Muccigrosso
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:11, Billy Youdelman wrote: 2. If I delete that message while it’s open, no message is left selected. I’d rather the next message in the thread get selected. ...and opened, regardless if the message list is threaded. Yes, yes, yes - this would be extremely helpful for me.

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread John D. Muccigrosso
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:14, aisrael wrote: For point 1, you just press Alt at the same time, it opens the entire thread (it is a regular McOS command). I’ll try that out. Thanks. (I assume you mean command there, and not option, right?) PS I’m not sure how it’s a regular OS command. John

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread Thomas Grundberg
2016-09-01 kl 20:16 skrev John D. Muccigrosso: I’ll try that out. Thanks. (I assume you mean command there, and not option, right?) Try both. The result may surprise you. ;-) PS I’m not sure how it’s a regular OS command. It’s a Finder feature in list view. -- Thomas __

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread aisrael
It is the alt (MacOS) key, not the cmd one. If you use it on a folder/subfolder/subsubfolder….in the Finder, it opens the entire thread also. Alain On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:16, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:14, aisrael wrote: For point 1, you just press Alt at the same time, it

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread Billy Youdelman
John D. Muccigrosso wrote: 2. If I delete that message while it’s open, no message is left selected. I’d rather the next message in the thread get selected. ...and opened, regardless if the message list is threaded. Yes, yes, yes - this would be extremely helpful for me. I wouldn’t want it

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread John D. Muccigrosso
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:25, aisrael wrote: It is the alt (MacOS) key, not the cmd one. Ah, the option key (which I now see is sometimes labeled Alt). Thanks! Here’s what happens for me: 1. Option-enter when a thread is highlighted. Beep. 2. Cmd-enter. Also beep. 3. Option-double-click. Top mess

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Rettke
On 1 Sep 2016, at 13:14, aisrael alain.isr...@pasteur.fr wrote: For point 1, you just press Alt at the same time, it opens the entire thread (it is a regular McOS command). I'm not seeing that behavior. When I hold Option(alt) and click on the Carat (Rt pointing arrow) it does **display** t

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Seebs
On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Rob McBroom wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 13:46, Seebs wrote: So, plain text emails are now displaying in a non-fixed-width font. This is not ideal. But I can't find a way to change it. Do you have a custom stylesheet as described at https://manual.mailmate-app.com/cust

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:05, Seebs wrote: I note also, on the main window, the toolbar no longer works in text-only. Instead of textual buttons for the three actions, you get the word "Actions". I actually really liked having buttons labeled "Archive" or "Move to Junk", because words are more reli

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Zivago Lee
Sent! On 1 Sep 2016, at 10:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 18:57, Zivago Lee wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. Same here. You can both try the following to provide me with more

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Seebs
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:05, Seebs wrote: I note also, on the main window, the toolbar no longer works in text-only. Instead of textual buttons for the three actions, you get the word "Actions". I actually really liked having buttons labeled "Ar

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:20, Seebs wrote: So is there a straightforward way to indicate "please only send plain text, even if I do a thing which might otherwise suggest I'm thinking about HTML"? Not quite sure I understood the example, but you should configure MailMate to “Never embed” in the Co

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Rettke
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:05, Seebs mailmate-l...@seebs.net wrote: I note also, on the main window, the toolbar no longer works in text-only. Instead of textual buttons for the three actions, you get the word "Actions". I actually really liked having buttons labeled "Archive" or "Move to Junk", be

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:24, Richard Rettke wrote: Perhaps this should be a separate thread, but I now see 2 (two) Print icons on the top right of the mail command bar when reading a mail. One appears to be the old icon for the printer, the other appears to be a stylized print icon. I really don't

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Rettke
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: Right-click the toolbar to “Customize Toolbar...”. Then drag the default set into the toolbar or configure your own. Thanks Benny! That worked. I thought I had done that a while back, but, apparently not, c'est la vi

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread Seebs
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:20, Seebs wrote: So is there a straightforward way to indicate "please only send plain text, even if I do a thing which might otherwise suggest I'm thinking about HTML"? Not quite sure I understood the example, but you

Re: [MlMt] thread-reading behavior

2016-09-01 Thread aisrael
Sorry I did not understand you wanted to open all messages at the same time. Then I don’t know how to do it. Alain On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:39, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:25, aisrael wrote: It is the alt (MacOS) key, not the cmd one. Ah, the option key (which I now see is

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:18, Zivago Lee wrote: You can both try the following to provide me with more data: Sent! I don't think I got the files? A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Zivago Lee
Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:18, Zivago Lee wrote: You can both try the following to provide me with more data: Sent! I don't think I got the files? A general update: I've gotten a report

[MlMt] Hide "Default" Mailboxes

2016-09-01 Thread Pedro Lobo
Hey All, Been AWOL for a while and finally decided to return to our beloved MailMate. Having used a plethora of simpler email clients, I’ve become accustomed to a little less visual clutter, in particular with regard to mailboxes in the sidebar. I can’t quite recall if this has always been li

[MlMt] Suddenly HTML

2016-09-01 Thread Seebs
So, I found out how to trigger this. All I have to do is not notice that markup language "markdown" was selected, and put *asterisks* around a thing. So apparently what actually caused some of the strangeness is that markdown was turned on-by-default in the recent patch, maybe? And that means

Re: [MlMt] Devonthink

2016-09-01 Thread Sean Johnson
I’m also a happy DEVONThink (and MailMate) user, and even more so since recently migrating from Evernote. Just wanted to mention that if you’re affiliated with a University (student, staff, faculty), there’s currently a 40% off sale through Sept 18th. I’m pretty sure I initially bought DEVONThi

Re: [MlMt] New version broke fonts?

2016-09-01 Thread David Shepherdson
On 2 Sep 2016, at 05.05, Seebs wrote: I note also, on the main window, the toolbar no longer works in text-only. Instead of textual buttons for the three actions, you get the word "Actions". I actually really liked having buttons labeled "Archive" or "Move to Junk", because words are more reli

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Kee Hinckley
On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate some times does not successfully save tokens in the keychain. I'll investigate this tomorrow. My

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Rettke
On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues? I've been watching this thread since it started and feeling f

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-01 Thread Scott A. McIntyre
Hi, On 2 September 2016, at 1646, Richard Rettke wrote: On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues?