Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Is it running on google's server. The name "Web Centered OS" seems to be running in google's server and the users will get an interface. If it is running on google's server then it doesn't respect your freedom, even if it is free or not. Because you are not in control of your computing. Suppose if

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
If google publish the software, I have the freedom to choose whether to use the one you run on your server or to run on my server. >Suppose if google publish this software and I'm running it >on my server for you. Then also no matter how much nice guy I am, you >are not in control of your computi

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. Ofcourse. But you are in control of your computing only if you have your own licensed copy of the OS and run it on your computer. Atleast your server. Not myserver or ILUG's server or any other machine. Just curiosity, why any people what to do this? Nowadays, it's not haard to get your own co

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
>I have heard from many people that this is a great advancement in >technology. What? Someone being able to use OS running on another's server? -- Sunjith ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http://i

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. Many people tell that it is very good idea. But no matter if it is free or not, you are not in control of your computing. I think google is the No:1 in providing these kind of nasty services. I heard that google docs do the same. But this OS is new to me. Thank you for letting me know about it

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
Please read http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html It seems like a lightweight linux OS which runs Google's window manager. This window manager will be (like) a web browser. I guess that there will be a GUI to configure network. Smells like geekbox's idea; Mediap

[ILUG-Cochin.org] Fwd: [fsug-tvm] Re: Gimp Workshop

2009-07-09 Thread sooraj kenoth
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread antony.maliakal
The idea of a netbook whose OS has to be constantly online is probably not going to click Especially in a place where they define broadband with 256kbps and stop there. But as mentioned the offline versions of google docs etc would be there I believe from the announcement, that, it's a linux ker

[ILUG-Cochin.org] A small gift for you.

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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] A small gift for you.

2009-07-09 Thread madhu kannan
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Again why? Why you have to do this? On 09/07/2009, antony.malia...@wipro.com wrote: > > The idea of a netbook whose OS has to be constantly online is probably > not going to click > Especially in a place where they define broadband with 256kbps and stop > there. > But as mentioned the offline ver

[ILUG-Cochin.org] ssk meeting irimpanam

2009-07-09 Thread thomas yoyaku
S.S.K (SWATHANTHRA SOFTWARE KOOTTAYMA) FIRST MEETING Date and Time: 10-7-09 Friday, 2.30 P.M Venue: Main Hall, V.H.S.S IRIMPANAM AGENDA Introduction for Free Software by Sreenadh, 'ILUG' CO

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] bsnl gprs in debian

2009-07-09 Thread hari krishnan
Nothing more than Jul 9 22:05:29 tester pppd[4993]: LCP terminated by peer (^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@) Jul 9 22:05:29 tester pppd[4993]: Modem hangup ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http://ilug-cochi

[ILUG-Cochin.org] student user group- first meeting

2009-07-09 Thread sanalkumar mr
Dear all The support from the free software community , especially *ILUG Kochi* , was the secret of the success behind Swathanthra Software Sangamam held in VHSS Irimpanam.The first student community ever in Kerala was formed in the school as a part of it . Details of its(Swathanthra Sof

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] bsnl gprs in debian

2009-07-09 Thread unni krishnan
Try Stupid mode = yes in /etc/wvdial.conf send the content in /etc/wvdial.conf , if that is not working On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM, hari krishnan wrote: > Nothing more than > JulĀ  9 22:05:29 tester pppd[4993]: LCP terminated by peer > (^...@^@^...@^@^...@^@) > JulĀ  9 22:05:29 tester pppd[4

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] bsnl gprs in debian

2009-07-09 Thread unni krishnan
Also are you sure that the "Access Point Name" is gprssouth.cellone.in. I can see there is two zone in south soth a and b. The bsnlsouth is the access point in south a, I think so. What is the configuration in your windows ? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:53 AM, unni krishnan wrote: > Try Stupid mode

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread madhu kannan
Should there be a open alternative to Google ? a Gnugle which offers mail , im, social networking like Google or yahoo ? > > It is a bit scary, google pretty much has all our lives in storage. > > (1. Email, 2. Orkut [social life], 3. Youtube [preferences]) > > Should one company be in control o

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Fayaz useful
For a simple reason, its nice to have your own OS with you wherever you're going. (At least where there is internet) And I think this is can be attributed as a triumph for FOSS that such an idea is coming to realization. I don't think Google would have even thought of something like this if a free

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Finally, if you don't recognize your freedom, you won't value it. If you don't value your freedom, you won't defend it. If you don't defend your freedom, you are going to loose it. Like this. You don't value your freedom. That's the reason you are thinking about silly conveniences like chrome. -

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread madhu kannan
A Gmail user don't know what Google is doing with the contents or how they operate , isn't it loosing your freedom for a silly conveniance for email :-) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jos Collin wrote: > Finally, if you don't recognize your freedom, you won't value it. If > you don't va

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
That's not a problem. google doesn't take control of my computing if I use their email service. The question is Why we have to use an OS and other softwares, which are provided by google and give up our freedom? The same exist in our computer or laptop, which grant us freedom. Why whould I put all

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
gmail is good. But it has a nasty spy feature too. I would like to share it with you. It is the chat feature in gmail window. When ever I log in to gmail, it informs every one online saying "Jos Collin has logged in now". When ever I'm not working, it informs everybody saying "Jos Collin is away".

[ILUG-Cochin.org] Enjoy, "social.answers.microsoft.com "

2009-07-09 Thread Titty Jacob
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistahardware/thread/720108ee-0a9c-4090-b62d-bbd5cb1a7605 -- Debian GNU/Linux.~. The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^ .''`. : :' : `. `'` `-

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
Putting your software on somebody else's server is a service provided to you by that somebody else. It is your software that is running, you code it, modify it or do whatever you want with it. They serve you by keeping your software up-to-date, free from viruses, accessible from anywhere in the

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. It is a service. Even if I code it and giving it to them, I still have no access to do anything that I want, on their server. I mean as I have on my computer or my laptop. So I will use my computer as server, I will keep the machine in my room. Then I will put my softwares in that server and a

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Biju Jose
How do you envisage "aam aadmi" who does not have the technical knowledge and resources to run a server do his/her computing? Biju Jose -Original Message- From: mailinglist-boun...@ilug-cochin.org [mailto:mailinglist-boun...@ilug-cochin.org] On Behalf Of Jos Collin Sent: Friday, July 10,

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Fayaz useful
You still have the choice... An intuitive ethical introvert On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:34, Jos Collin wrote: > Yes. It is a service. Even if I code it and giving it to them, I still > have no access to do anything that I want, on their server. I mean as > I have on my computer or my laptop. So

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:49 AM, madhu kannan wrote: > Should there be a open alternative to Google ? a Gnugle which offers mail , > im, social networking like Google or yahoo ? > And how it will be different from G or Y!? How it will be "open"? We can get its php/ajax source code? Or the source

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Jos Collin wrote: > gmail is good. But it has a nasty spy feature too. I would like to > share it with you. It is the chat feature in gmail window. When ever I > log in to gmail, it informs every one online saying "Jos Collin has > logged in now". When ever I'm n