Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-13 Thread justin joseph
--- On Fri, 7/10/09, madhu kannan wrote: > why google is better than MS > ms will take away your freedom and your money , and google > will do it with out charging any thing :-) http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/168202/chrome_os_could_offend_the_open_source_community.html "2. C

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Praveen A
2009/7/10 madhu kannan : > why google is better than MS > ms will take away your freedom and your money , and google will do it with > out charging any thing :-) You will curse MS, but you will sing halleluya for Google :-) http://9gag.com/photo/4647_full.jpg Substitute Bush with MS and Obama wi

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread madhu kannan
why google is better than MS ms will take away your freedom and your money , and google will do it with out charging any thing :-) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Jain Johny wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM, wrote: > >> How many people (lay people) do you think use their freedom? >> So

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM, wrote: > How many people (lay people) do you think use their freedom? > Software freedom... Do u think they will go thru and modify their own > code to suit their needs? > > I understand that due to the immense popularity of Gmail and all their > other products >

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread bobinson
for those interested to know about possibly the first web based OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouOS Chrome could be using Firefox engine and Gears. ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http://ilug-c

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread antony.maliakal
How many people (lay people) do you think use their freedom? Software freedom... Do u think they will go thru and modify their own code to suit their needs? I understand that due to the immense popularity of Gmail and all their other products Google has a very good publicity for its OS So yes, the

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Fayaz useful wrote: > How about this? Pay 10-20 bucks at an internet cafe and use Google Chrome > OS? And did you forget viruses? > How you are gonna use Chrome OS? Are you gonna install Chrome on the cafe desktop? AFAIK, Chrome is not a web OS. It is a desktop OS

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Fayaz useful
How about this? Pay 10-20 bucks at an internet cafe and use Google Chrome OS? And did you forget viruses? PS: Is this some sort of a flame war? An intuitive ethical introvert On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 13:03, Jain Johny wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Fayaz useful > wrote: > >> That

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Fayaz useful wrote: > That is more or less saying that freedom is for those who can afford it... > cheaper solution for those who cant afford a laptop. Buy a usb flash drive! :-) > > An intuitive ethical introvert > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:30, Jos Co

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Fayaz useful
That is more or less saying that freedom is for those who can afford it... An intuitive ethical introvert On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:30, Jos Collin wrote: > It's not hard to get a computer these days. So if you are travel often > then I suggest you to buy a laptop and forget about webservers.

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Jos Collin wrote: > That's not a problem. google doesn't take control of my computing if I > use their email service. The question is Why we have to use an OS and > other softwares, which are provided by google and give up our freedom? Google says that chrome w

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Jos Collin
It's not hard to get a computer these days. So if you are travel often then I suggest you to buy a laptop and forget about webservers. Instead of giving money to google, give it to the laptop manufacturer, who deserves it. You can use the same softwares in home as well as outside. You can ssh into

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-10 Thread Sunjith P S
Right... you have the choice! If you have the money and resources to maintain a server, nobody is stopping you. You can do it. For a lot of others who don't have it can make use of google's. -sunjith > You still have the choice... > An intuitive ethical introvert > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Jos Collin wrote: > gmail is good. But it has a nasty spy feature too. I would like to > share it with you. It is the chat feature in gmail window. When ever I > log in to gmail, it informs every one online saying "Jos Collin has > logged in now". When ever I'm n

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:49 AM, madhu kannan wrote: > Should there be a open alternative to Google ? a Gnugle which offers mail , > im, social networking like Google or yahoo ? > And how it will be different from G or Y!? How it will be "open"? We can get its php/ajax source code? Or the source

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Fayaz useful
You still have the choice... An intuitive ethical introvert On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:34, Jos Collin wrote: > Yes. It is a service. Even if I code it and giving it to them, I still > have no access to do anything that I want, on their server. I mean as > I have on my computer or my laptop. So

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Biju Jose
y, July 10, 2009 11:34 AM To: This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming Yes. It is a service. Even if I code it and giving it to them, I still have no access to do anything that I want, on their server. I mean as I have on my compute

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. It is a service. Even if I code it and giving it to them, I still have no access to do anything that I want, on their server. I mean as I have on my computer or my laptop. So I will use my computer as server, I will keep the machine in my room. Then I will put my softwares in that server and a

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
gmail is good. But it has a nasty spy feature too. I would like to share it with you. It is the chat feature in gmail window. When ever I log in to gmail, it informs every one online saying "Jos Collin has logged in now". When ever I'm not working, it informs everybody saying "Jos Collin is away".

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
Putting your software on somebody else's server is a service provided to you by that somebody else. It is your software that is running, you code it, modify it or do whatever you want with it. They serve you by keeping your software up-to-date, free from viruses, accessible from anywhere in the

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
That's not a problem. google doesn't take control of my computing if I use their email service. The question is Why we have to use an OS and other softwares, which are provided by google and give up our freedom? The same exist in our computer or laptop, which grant us freedom. Why whould I put all

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread madhu kannan
A Gmail user don't know what Google is doing with the contents or how they operate , isn't it loosing your freedom for a silly conveniance for email :-) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jos Collin wrote: > Finally, if you don't recognize your freedom, you won't value it. If > you don't va

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Finally, if you don't recognize your freedom, you won't value it. If you don't value your freedom, you won't defend it. If you don't defend your freedom, you are going to loose it. Like this. You don't value your freedom. That's the reason you are thinking about silly conveniences like chrome. -

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Fayaz useful
For a simple reason, its nice to have your own OS with you wherever you're going. (At least where there is internet) And I think this is can be attributed as a triumph for FOSS that such an idea is coming to realization. I don't think Google would have even thought of something like this if a free

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread madhu kannan
Should there be a open alternative to Google ? a Gnugle which offers mail , im, social networking like Google or yahoo ? > > It is a bit scary, google pretty much has all our lives in storage. > > (1. Email, 2. Orkut [social life], 3. Youtube [preferences]) > > Should one company be in control o

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Again why? Why you have to do this? On 09/07/2009, antony.malia...@wipro.com wrote: > > The idea of a netbook whose OS has to be constantly online is probably > not going to click > Especially in a place where they define broadband with 256kbps and stop > there. > But as mentioned the offline ver

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread antony.maliakal
The idea of a netbook whose OS has to be constantly online is probably not going to click Especially in a place where they define broadband with 256kbps and stop there. But as mentioned the offline versions of google docs etc would be there I believe from the announcement, that, it's a linux ker

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jain Johny
Please read http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html It seems like a lightweight linux OS which runs Google's window manager. This window manager will be (like) a web browser. I guess that there will be a GUI to configure network. Smells like geekbox's idea; Mediap

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. Many people tell that it is very good idea. But no matter if it is free or not, you are not in control of your computing. I think google is the No:1 in providing these kind of nasty services. I heard that google docs do the same. But this OS is new to me. Thank you for letting me know about it

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
>I have heard from many people that this is a great advancement in >technology. What? Someone being able to use OS running on another's server? -- Sunjith ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http://i

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Yes. Ofcourse. But you are in control of your computing only if you have your own licensed copy of the OS and run it on your computer. Atleast your server. Not myserver or ILUG's server or any other machine. Just curiosity, why any people what to do this? Nowadays, it's not haard to get your own co

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Sunjith P S
If google publish the software, I have the freedom to choose whether to use the one you run on your server or to run on my server. >Suppose if google publish this software and I'm running it >on my server for you. Then also no matter how much nice guy I am, you >are not in control of your computi

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-09 Thread Jos Collin
Is it running on google's server. The name "Web Centered OS" seems to be running in google's server and the users will get an interface. If it is running on google's server then it doesn't respect your freedom, even if it is free or not. Because you are not in control of your computing. Suppose if

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-08 Thread Anoop Alias
Will the chrome OS have a shell?. As long as it has one i dont care :) -- Anoop P Alias (PGP Key ID : 0x014F9953) GNU system administrator http://GnuSys.net ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http:/

[ILUG-Cochin.org] chrome is coming ....

2009-07-08 Thread madhu kannan
google announced the chrome os a web centred os to built on top of Linux which is going to be open source , but do we need another linux distro ___ ILUG Cochin Mailing List http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/ Mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org http://ilug-coch