Just one addition to this, for me to use these commands, I also have to hold
down the VO keys. So, VO-FN-right arrow for home, etc.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 7, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:
>
> If you hold down the Fn key, the arrow keys become the following:
> Left Arrow becomes the
Changing the behavior of the arrow keys is not a function of VoiceOver,
therefore it is not necessary to use the VO modifier in order to use the
alternate actions of the arrow keys as described in my original response.
You can test this by turning on Keyboard Help, then press the different arrow
Sorry, Brad, but I have to disagree. When I just press the FN key nothing
happens. When I press the VO modifier, the keys behave as you describe.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Bradford Snyder wrote:
>
> Changing the behavior of the arrow keys is not a function of VoiceOver,
> t
Hi Donna,You can disagree all you want, but the VO key is not necessary to change the behavior of the arrow keys when using the Fn key.- Brad -On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Sorry, Brad, but I have to disagree. When I just press the FN key nothing happens. Whe
Brad,. I am really tired of the obnoxious behavior you display on this list.
Either learn to be civil, or get off the list.
I can reproduce this behavior flawlessly, and without exception. Just pressing
the FN key does NOTHING! So, you can be rude all you want, but I’m going to
post my experi
Hi Donna!
To verify, when you press and hold FN, while pressing left or right in keyboard
help mode with VO+K your saying your computer doesn’t say home or end unless
you press the VO keys as well?
That is strange, on this MacBook Air, I can do the following steps:
1. Press VO+K to enter keybo
Hi Michael,
So if I go into keyboard help and press those keys—exactly as you describe—VO
does say Home, End etc. But if I press FN plus an arrow key without the VO
modifier while in a document, webpage etc,nothing happens.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:
Hi Donna!
OK, I see now!
I can verify that this is the case for me as well.
E.G.
1. Open a email message (this one I’m in now for example)
2. Press fn+left or fn+right
3. Nothing Happens, focus stays in the current position.
4. Press fn+VO+Left or FN+VO+Right will move you to the start or end o
I’ve noticed a subtle difference when experimenting in the VO keyboard help
mode.
With just Fn and the left/right the announcement is Home and end, as reported.
However when holding Fn plus VO and pressing left arrow, a moment after saying
home it will also announce “Go to beginning, moves the
Thanks, Michael and Dave. Very glad that you can reproduce what I’m seeing.
Dave, I’ve used the Mac long enough that I don’t go into keyboard help all that
often. What you said about the longer explanation is interesting, I hadn’t
stuck around in Help long enough to hear all that. I think I ju
Hello Donna and all,What you are experiencing has to do with the behavior of VoiceOver navigation within a specific application, such as Mail, TextEdit, or other native Mac applications.This is a separate issue from modifying the behavior of the arrow keys while holding down only the Fn key.- Brad
Do us all a favor and take this off list where it belongs.
Personality conflicts are off topic as they have nothing to do with
Apple products.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancien
Hi Brad,
I can tell you that on my Mac, I see the same behavior in Mail, Text Edit,
Pages, and Safari. So it would appear to be system wide.
Donna
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> Hello Donna and all,
>
> What you are experiencing has to do with the behavior of VoiceOver
With all due respect, it has to do with the list environment, and therefore
belongs here. It is not OK for one member to create an unpleasant list
environment for others, by criticizing, denigrating, or invalidating others’
posts. We all post things that are for whatever reason not accurate on
Hi Donna,These are all native Mac apps. Behavior may be different with non-native Mac apps.HTH.- Brad -On Jan 8, 2023, at 12:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Brad,I can tell you that on my Mac, I see the same behavior in Mail, Text Edit, Pages, and Safari. So it would appear to be
Hi ET, true they are off topic, but a good pissing contest helps to brighten an
otherwise dreary Sunday afternoon. don’t you agree? 😁
Sent from my IPhone
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 2:00 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> With all due respect, it has to do with the list environmen
Hi Brad,
That’s very possible. That’s why I said it appears to be system wide. I can’t
say that I’ve tried it in every single app on my Mac. I just wanted newer
users to know that they might have to add the VO modifier keys for it to work.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Brad Sny
Guys,
I’ll jump back in here. I tried the stuff we’re talking about and here is what
happens for me.
First, keep in mind that I am a low vision person who can observe certain
outcomes on screen.
2. This all started in my Google mailbox within Apple Mail on an M1 MacBook
Pro running Mont
When one responds to perceived "negative/obnoxious" behavior with
the same, no on wins, everybody loses. 'Nuff said.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 1/8
Hi all,
>> I am trying to use my mack computer more. I have some questions to ask all
>> of you or someone on this list can help me. First of all my contacts are
>> not sink with my computer. Also I have some attachments that were sent to
>> me in pdf. How do you open them and read them with
Hi all ,
I have another question. I have pages open and a document open on it. How do
I open another pages how do I go between the two of them ?
Thanks
Becky
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The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries
list.
If you have any questions or concerns about t
Hi Kevin,
When in the Mail app on your Mac, you can easily move to the top or bottom of
the mailbox list by pressing the Option key, then use the Up Arrow to move to
the first item in the mailbox list, or press the down Arrow to move to the last
item in the mailbox list.
You can move between in
Not to perpetuate the earlier discussion, but for me, moving from top to bottom
of the mailbox list is accomplished by pressing CMD-Option plus up or down
arrow to move to the top or bottom respectively. Just mentioning this in case
that turns out to be the case for Kevin as well.
Cheers,
Donna
Perhaps you might want to try to go to the file menu and open a second
document. Then write what you want to write in the second document window or
create that second document, but give it a different file name. Then you might
be able to alt tab between the two correction shift tab between the t
Hello All,
This week I used my Mac Book Pro plus Iphone 10 to make a FaceTime call for
a music lesson since I was home sick. The call placed and while I got audio
on the Mac Book, the video was not displaying on the computer screen. I
tried turning screen curtain on/off/on but my instructor
> Hi,
To move between multiple windows in the same app, Press command plus grov.
But first you need to open the first document. Then go to the file menu to
create or open the second document.
Thanks,
Rob
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 21:38, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
>>
>> Hi all ,
>> I have another questio
I was trying to fill out a survey which was very simple until I got to this
spot where they wanted me to drag a slider rather than just supply a number.
can that be done using vo? I couldn’t even find it.
thanks.
Lorie
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The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visio
Such is the case for me also: by which I mean command+optionplusup or down to
move to top and bottom respectively.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
>
Hello!
If you can not find it then it might be a bit problematic I guess.
But you should be able to interact with the slider and adjust it with the arrow
keys.
What survey is it?
Can I also fill it out just to try?
Bless!
/A
> 9 jan. 2023 kl. 02:09 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>
> I was trying to fill
the screenreader just doesn’t see the slider. I’ve tried everything.
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 8:16 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hello!
> If you can not find it then it might be a bit problematic I guess.
> But you should be able to interact with the slider and adjust it with the
> arrow keys.
> W
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