Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen
Enjoying this exchange. I am wondering what browsers are used in either this command line environment, or the one you illustrated for Andrew? On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, Simon: Yes, but not the graphical desktop of Ubuntu, and not the audio device dri

Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

2020-03-29 Thread maurice mines
Yes I do live in California, but I do have a memory. I don’t think I’ll ever forget the person who taught me UNIX/Linux I am trying to decide which distribution I’m going to install in the virtual machine on my Mac. It’s either going to be Ubuntu, or talking arch Lenox. All the best smile. Yo

Re: Mac Mini Now On Order

2020-03-29 Thread Brad Snyder
The bluetooth keyboard is powered by an internal rechargeable battery. A Lightning to USB-A cable is included with the keyboard for charging, just like an iPhone. This cable can also be used for initial pairing with the mac mini. The Lightning port is located dead-center along the top edge of t

RE: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Janina, Yeah I really like the command line interface, I've got former colleagues who can't work without a mouse which I think is stupid but hey they's the ones with the issues. I use powershell when I can as it's both nicer and more powerful and in a lot of cases quicker to use. -Or

RE: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Janina, That might be the way to get around it, I'd prefer the commandline interface if I could as it's something I'm more comfortable with. Interesting twist on this though, Could you install the ubuntu server os version of the operating system rather than the desktop? An from what I've

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Simon: Absolutely. You don't get the desktop version this way in any case. All those graphical widgets aren't supported. They didn't build that much of a virtual machine environment. Only the command line stuff, which is another meaning of "server" anyway. And, not even all of those as you can

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
All right, Simon. I had a feeling you were a man after my own heart! Power Shell rocks, actually. I like how it's database driven. That's a solid step up over bash and zsh. But, like everything else, it only slows you down if you haven't learned enoth commands to move fast, and I haven't. Insta

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Karen: It would be the same as you're already familiar with from other Linux situations. It's just the plain old Linux console, so the two likely options are lynx the cat or links the chain. Of course, you still have the option to Alt-TAB your way to the Windows desktop for Chrome, Firefox, or Ed

Re: Mac Mini Now On Order

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks again, Brad! I can be such a dunce sometimes! Good thing I still had the packaging the keyboard came in! Best, Janina Brad Snyder writes: > The bluetooth keyboard is powered by an internal rechargeable battery. A > Lightning to USB-A cable is included with the keyboard for charging, j

Re: Question please regarding the option-t time check

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Anytime, Maurice. I'm not as good as Bill, but I'm still here! Still miss that guy bunches. Hardly a week goes by I don't want to pick up the phone and call Bill. Best, Janina maurice mines writes: > Yes I do live in California, but I do have a memory. I don’t think I’ll ever > forget the per

A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi, When working in Terminal and command line, is it possible to examine the window content with Voiceover? Say , ls -l command produces a list of files in the directory I am in. How can I examine each file and maybe even copy their names to clipboard or details about them if I were to use th

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, You might want to try the TDSR console screen reader for Mac. It makes working with the terminal a bit easier. It can be found at: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr Greg Wocher > On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:21 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote:

Re: Mac Mini Now On Order

2020-03-29 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, To add to Brad's info, for the mouse, when bottom up so that you have access to the charging port, the port would be at six o'clock and the power switch would be at about 1 o'clock. move the switch up to power on and down to power off. Similar to the keyboard as Brad explained, the initia

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen
If I follow, that would not be the case if one created a virgin Linux only machine though correct? having never been a windows user, I was simply wondering if one could use the Linux command line platform in its entirety, but it seems that is not the case. These days even DOS has Links the

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, for the first question just interact a few times with the window and you should be able to use the voiceover cursor to review and select things. VO-return should start selecting and vo-return a second time should finish the selection operation. Also, double tapping with mouse will select

Re: Keychain

2020-03-29 Thread Lorie McCloud
ok. that explains why I can't find it. thanks. > On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > Yes. In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a > passcode enabled. Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or > FaceID, but this is optional. > Keychai

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Jonathan, You are so kind. Thank you for your response. I’m new to the command line, but I’m very serious in learning. So your kind attitude and response in non-technical terms is very welcome. As to the 2nd point, I was surprised because I’m following Joe Kissel’s from TitBits Take Control

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
I’m going to show my utter ignorance. What do you mean by virgin only linux machine? I don’t lack education but in computers/operating systems, I’m a baby so I need little steps. So do you mean pure Linux? And does this exist? Can we therefore run email, web browser, document creation like

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread Karen Lewellen
My understanding from the suggested idea is for you to secure hardware, and install Linux only. a console rather than desktop edition. If I am mistaken by the suggestion I will certainly stand corrected. I personally use Linux Ubuntu via shell services, reaching them via ssh TELNET. At leas

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jonathan, Andrew, All: With respect to using the tab key in the terminal ... Jonathan Cohn writes: > Your second question was related to file completion. This says too little. Yes, filename completion, but also command completion. In fact the strategy is widely implemented because it helps u

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Glad to hear you're giving the CLI the old college try. Hope it becomes a very comfortable environment for you! I want to suggest it's important you focus on zsh as Apple now defaults to zsh. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050. Since you're a beginning command line user, you d

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Karen: You are correct. Linux under Microsoft's WSL is not a complete replacement for a fully capable Linux machine. It's not trying to be that. It's providing access to tools software developers need. When early beta versions of WSL were first made available, my heavyweight programmer friends we

Re: OT: anybody on the list using Linux in VMWare or on a separate machine? Pls answer off list

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Andrew: I will attempt my own answer to your questions. Karen will likely have her own answer for you. I'm unaccustomed to hearing that term applied to a machine running a Linux as it's one and only OS; however, it is true that you can do a lot from the Linux CLI. Looking at the items in your lis

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the reminder, Greg. I'm just now starting the install of TDSR. For me that means an update of homebrew, followed by an upgrade of python3, and that is taking quite some time. Hopeing the result will truly be easier to use than VO in the terminal, as you suggest. That would be a good thi