RE: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
I can't say exactly but I believe some of the US mobile providers had a plan for something like 5 dollars as an additional charge to the existing plan for the phone, But yes be the answer, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunda

RE: anyone having problems with gmail redownloading old messages in apple mail?

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Late in answering but have you got your mail client set to keep copies on the server? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Friday, 27 April 2018 1:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: anyone having problems with gmai

RE: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
But it needs another sim -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 2:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan? No. It is an add-on to your curr

RE: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
But it needs another sim -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 2:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan? No. It is an add-on to your curr

RE: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
But it needs another sim -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 2:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan? No. It is an add-on to your curr

RE: Acrobat DC dual behavior

2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Is there a version of this for the IOS platform? It would be good on my phone and ipad. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2018 1:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Acrobat DC dual behavior Hi, I like PDFPen Pro. It’s n

Re: anyone having problems with gmail redownloading old messages in apple mail?

2018-04-29 Thread Michael Marshall
hey, This problem has fixed itself. It was a problem with gmail. i use imap. thanks for all of your help Mihael > On 29 Apr 2018, at 6:45 pm, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Late in answering but have you got your mail client set to keep copies on the > server? > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: alias

2018-04-29 Thread Andrew Lamanche
To create alias of a folder or file, focus VO on the name and activate contextual menu by pressing vo+shift+m. Arrow down the menu till you hear “make alias” and press vo+spacebar or enter key. You will be presented with the text box where you can edit the name of your alias. You either accep

Re: mail

2018-04-29 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, Open “Mail” application and then you may want to adjust your preferences in Mail by calling up preference window with command+,. You will most probably be placed immediately in the toolbar. As you vo to the right, you will see various options you can adjust. Once you select a button for

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Mary, A couple of months ago, I purchased the Fifth Generation Focus for the reasons you stated. I like being able to quickly switch between my iPhone and PC with this display. Regardless of the company one chooses to work with, there are pros and cons with all of them. I chose the Focus

Re: alias

2018-04-29 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Wayne You can press Command + L on the item for which you want to create an alias. You will then need to copy that item to the desktop if that is where you want your aliases to appear. However, regarding your HD, you can have it appear on your Desktop by selecting 'Hard Disks' which yo

Re: alias

2018-04-29 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi James, Just one minor correction: to open preferences the key combination is command + comma. Andrew > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:37 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Wayne > > You can press Command + L on the item for which you want to create an alias. > You will then need to copy that item to

Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
I figured, Simon. I couldn't imagine that a cell provider would miss a chance to get a few more $$. lol Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:45 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > I can't say exactly but I believe some of the US mobile providers had a plan > for something like 5 dollars as an additi

Re: Question about a very specific type of crash

2018-04-29 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Tim, what is the m for after the command+option+shift+q? Is it an answer to a question we cannot see if VO is not working? I am eager to see if this helps me when VO goes down on my mini. Kristeen > On Apr 23, 2018, at 4:32 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > cmd-shift-q still requires a res

Re: alias

2018-04-29 Thread james . londonsw15
Hi Andrew Quite right thanks for the correction Best James Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Apr 2018, at 12:53, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > Hi James, > > Just one minor correction: to open preferences the key combination is command > + comma. > > Andrew >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:37 PM, James AU

voices

2018-04-29 Thread wayne coles
hello i have made a big mistake i have made a foreign voice made default is there a way to change things back i cant understand a word it is saying -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: Acrobat DC dual behavior

2018-04-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes, there is. I haven't checked on it for a while though. In my last contact with the developer about a year ago, they admitted that the accessibility of the iOS app was not up to the level of the Mac app. They did claim to be working on it, but I've not yet did any checking. It might

Re: Question about a very specific type of crash

2018-04-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Sorry, the "m" appears to be a top. It shouldn't be there. cmd-option-shift-q should be enough. It will normally log you right out without any prompts, unless there's an app that has unsaved documents, or if there's an app that is otherwise blocking the logout process request. Normally

Re: Question about a very specific type of crash

2018-04-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Again, I appear to need to proof-read my responses. That should read that the "m" is a typo. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 29, 2018, at 09:14, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Sorry, the "m" appears to be a top. It shouldn't be there. cmd-option-shift-q sh

Re: voices

2018-04-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Try using your rotor. Twist left with two fingers like your turning down the volume knob on a radio. If you hear the word "language" trying to be pronounced oddly the other language, then flip up or down to see if it changes to English. If you're unable to understand if it says the word

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Les, Does auto scroll work outside of jaws? That is, on a Mac or an iPhone? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 4:18 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > A couple of months ago, I purchased the Fifth Generation Focus for the > reasons you stated. I like being able to quic

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, I reckon I will look at other displays. After hearing about the changes in technology in new displays I know I can't settle for an Edge even though I liked its simplicity. Sounds like you may have to give yours away. Someone on a different list is selling his 2-month old Edge for abo

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I can say that the focus Fifth generation display works very well with your iPhone as well as the computers. I don’t have a Mac anymore, as I need to save up for a new one. I am hoping that the iMac will be coming out again in September. Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Apr 2018, at 4:53 pm, Mary O

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Mary, I suppose I am out of touch with the AT business so am not up to snuff on who markets what. VFO for example is new to me. I briefly looked at a display last week that has a touch screen. I don't remember what brand that one is but I passed on it. But who knows, maybe I will keep a

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
ET, I wouldn't settle for an Edge either. It just doesn't have that much to offer. I'm not sure there's anything else out there at the moment that does, but good luck. As for my Edge, I'll keep it around as a backup. I'm hoping my VU works for a long time to come, but if it dies, at least I

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Jason, If I can take the 5th for a spin I may try and test this for myself. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/28/2018 4:32 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: I recall reading recently t

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
ET, I'll be curious about your impressions of the Focus 5. VFO is what used to be Freedom Scientific. Time was when I was a huge fan of theirs, but that hasn't been the case for over ten years now. If you check out the new Focus, please do share your impressions with the list. Cheers, Donna

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Leo, Right on the support. How do you like your 5th? Anyone remember the Blazie notetakers? I miss those cells, nice and sharp. I am not so fond of the more rounded ones used these days but can live with that. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have be

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, This is actually a concern I have. It goes back to the time when Freedom Scientific came to life and took over what, 3 companies, including Blazie? But we do not have many choices in the AT field. Yes I will certainly share my experiences. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@i

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Yep. Their last truly innovative product was the PacMate. That's been a brick for a long time now, and they haven't done anything since then--except eat other companies. One thing I would suggest as a factor for consideration is the notetaker component. I really like having a display that fu

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
I got the actilino used. I wanted something in case my VU died. the dots on it are becoming *very* soft. some of them hardly come up at all. I thought I would use the actilino as a backup, but I am using it exclusively now. I still love the vu, but the ability of the actilino to scroll based on

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Wow, now we are getting political. VFO owns the companies that are now or were formally called: • Freedom Scientific • AI Squared •GW Miccro • The Paciello Group •Enhanced Vision • Optelec So what Blind technology firms are still out there? • HiMS • Humanware • A company with Brist

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread david.tanner100
Handy Tech, APH, and at least a couple of others from Europe whose names escape me right at this moment. Oh yes, don’t forget the Braille note taker from National Braille Press. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 11:39 AM To:

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
I agree wholeheartedly about everything. I would love it if the scrolling could go even faster, but then, I am a really fast reader, and I guess there is only a certain degree of swiftness one can expect from refreshing dots. Since I have carpal tunnel syndrome, it is absolutely wonderful not to

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, Who actually develops the Focus line of products? Can you tell what little I know? (smiles) What I do like about the Edge is its not loaded down. I have a Brailesense Plus (dead now) and I barely used its features. Having a Mac, I can do heavy work there, and an iPhone, for quick

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
ET Focus is what Freedom Scientific has called its Braille displays for several years (maybe a decade). Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:53 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > Who actually develops the Focus line of products? Can you tell what little > I kno

RE: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread david.tanner100
I will only speak for AT&T since that is who I use. They add another line and charge you $10.00 a month for the line. They wave installation and setup charges for setting up the new line as a part of their deal with Apple to sell the Apple watch. I baught my watch at Best Buy, but used AT&t a

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Political? Sure sounds like it. I had no idea that VFO took over all those companies. Kind of surprised that GW Micro is under that umbrella. It makes me nervous because this changes the power exerted by mergers like this. At the same time though, if done right, resources could be maximi

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread david.tanner100
Remember, GW Micro was first baught out by AI Squared. They only became a part of VFO when VFO purchased AI Squared. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 12:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braill

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Ok thanks. Looks like I will be more informed now than ever before. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/29/2018 9:56 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: ET Focus is what Freedom Scientific has called its Br

muted vo

2018-04-29 Thread wayne coles
hello how can i unmute vo please by accident i muted it and i dont think my track pad is working i thought it was a three finger double tap but it is not working thanks for any help -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any question

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:38 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > I got the actilino used. I wanted something in case my VU died. the dots on > it are becoming *very* soft. some of them hardly come up at all. I tho

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think there is a 12. Yes anything less than 40 is out, even 32. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/29/2018 10:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yikes! Having only

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
In that case, the Active Braille has 40. Just a big Actilino, really. http://attriumph.com/braille-products/handytech/active-braille > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T. wrote: > > How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think t

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
E.T. wrote: >How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think there is a 12. Yes anything > less than 40 is out, even 32. It's the same for me, as I read and edit text extensively. However, if you're interested in the Active Tactile Control, the Active Braille, and the Braille Star, are both 40-ce

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi ET, Well, others have answered your first question. 😊 Like I said, the two things I most care about are word processor and file manager. All the social media stuff and all that that the Braille Sense devices have has little appeal, as I do that from my phone or Mac. I guess the three thin

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
it really isn’t that big a deal with the way it scrolls. I don’t miss them. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionari

Re: Does Apple Watch with cellular require a separate data plan?

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm. Interesting. I don't think my husband will ever get cellular on his watch, but I'm tempted by it. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:02 PM, david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: > > I will only speak for AT&T since that is who I use. They add another line > and charge you $10.00 a month fo

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Mary, Unfortunately, auto school does not work with the iPhone. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Les, > Does auto scroll work outside of jaws? That is, on a Mac or an iPhone? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 4:18 AM, Le

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
There is a twelve. It's called the BraillePen. You couldn't give me one of those things for free. I don't even really like having 32 cells. Anything under forty is just too small, IMHO. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:16 PM, E.T. wrote: > > How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I thin

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
What do you do if you actually want to be able to see the way a document is laid out? Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > it really isn’t that big a deal with the way it scrolls. I don’t miss them. > > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Yik

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
frankly all I do is read books either on kindle, bookshare, or in standalone mode. even with the VU I never am able to get an adequate picture of a document. I’ll have to wait for a full page display for that. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: What do you do if you actually want

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Jason, I demoed a HandyTech display a long time ago--like around 2007--and strongly disliked the file transfer protocol. The display had to be connected to the computer, and you used some program under Windows Utilities I think, like maybe VTerm? It was slow and annoying. How does one curren

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, I am absorbing way too much on a Sunday. (smiles) Oh I agree about having to use the SD card for the Edge. This brings up a question. Is there such a thing as a dumb braille display these days? One that is strictly a display? That I want to stay away from. From E.T.'s Keyboar

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
The focus used to be dumb. So far as I know, it still is, but I haven't paid much attention to it so I could be wrong. Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > I am absorbing way too much on a Sunday. (smiles) > > Oh I agree about having to use the SD card for the Ed

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
I move files from my Mac to the SD card. > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Jason, > > I demoed a HandyTech display a long time ago--like around 2007--and strongly > disliked the file transfer protocol. The display had to be connected to the > computer, and you used some

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
I’m not jason, but here is my two cents. you do have to use a sd card to transfer, but I had to use a usb stick for vu so that’s no problem to me. no I cannot use the file transfer program, but I have no problem converting documents to brf and putting them on the card. It does remember your last

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
That's very dated tech. I would be worried that one of these days SD cards are going to disappear altogether. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > I move files from my Mac to the SD card. > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >> J

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
As of now, the focus only has a Calendar and o’clock, but note taking ability is coming they say, currently under testing and do for release this year. Unfortunately, at least as I understand it, the way to get notes you take off of the display and onto your other devices is via an SD card. In

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what kind. Certain flavors of SD cards are going to be around for a long time. Look at all the phones that still use them, plus cameras etc. Sent from m

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
this is just my opinion, of course, but I would never by anything as expensive as a braille display on the promise that a feature will be implemented in the future. Many of us--or at least I--have gotten burned that way. 😊 Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > As

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
I hope you're right. But I'd definitely feel better having USB as an option. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be > a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what k

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
That is a bummer, Les. I assume that it will only work with Jaws. Since I really don’t like using jaws, that would be a bummer for me. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > > Hi Mary, > > Unfortunately, auto school does not work with the iPhone. >

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
A pen with 12 cells, cute. The BS Plus with 32 cells made reading of Bard books not so fun. So I too will never settle for less than 40. I also do not think I would go for a multi line display but would like to check one out just for grins. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.c

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
thanks, Alia. This is good info to have. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:38 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > I’m not jason, but here is my two cents. you do have to use a sd card to > transfer, but I had to use a usb stick for vu so that’s no problem to me. no > I cannot use the file transf

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
Nope, micro sd cards aren’t going anywhere. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what kind. Certain flavors of SD cards are going to be around

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Really? I'm kind of intrigued by the prospect of a multiline display. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:41 PM, E.T. wrote: > > A pen with 12 cells, cute. The BS Plus with 32 cells made reading of Bard > books not so fun. So I too will never settle for less than 40. I also do not > think

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
Also, as far as Active Braille, Actilino, etc., there is Bluetooth conductivity, and you can read files that way as well. The SD card is merely if you want to use it as a stand-alone. > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:42 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > Nope, micro sd cards aren’t going anywhere. > > On A

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
All things being equal, I would prefer 40 cells as well; however, it just isn’t in the old budget. Also, I love true portability. I am looking forward to Bristol’s Canute 40-line display; this is something I have dreamed of having for years. My reading speed just cries out for it. :) Christine

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
Well, one of the advantages of a company like vfo is you figure they’re actually going to do what they say. Smaller companies have problems. Look at what happened to Baum. I am sure they’re going to come out with that functionality with the braille note taking. The fact that you can’t do wireles

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
They're actually big enough to do what they say, that is true. But can and will aren't the same thing. For your sake, though, I hope that they do. You know, when I was using HIMS products, I always had very good customer service from them. But that's been a few years now. I haven't really fo

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Christine, Can you actually store files on the display, or do you store them on the SD card? Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > Also, as far as Active Braille, Actilino, etc., there is Bluetooth > conductivity, and you can read files that way as w

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
> On the Sd card.On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Donna Goodin > wrote: > > Hi Christine, > > Can you actually store files on the display, or do you store them on the SD > card? > Cheers, > Donna >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Christine Grassman >> wrote: >> >> Also, as far as Active Braill

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Too bad. That's how the Edge is too. I think I want a display that can actually store documents, i.e. has internal storage built in. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:58 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > > >> On the Sd card.On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Donna Goodin >> wrote: >> >>

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Peggy' via MacVisionaries
I'm waiting for the Blitab if it ever comes out, or maybe the Canute. Would love a multi line display. Peggy and Dixie Marie Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: They're actually big enough to do what they say, that is true. But can and will aren't the same th

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Maria Reyes
Another display coming out is the BrailleMe. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 1:55:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroup

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I don’t own a focus display. I was thinking about it. But not in the immediatenear future. What I would really like would be to see something that had some internal memory as well as an auto scroll feature that would work with devices including PCs, Max, and phones. That new human where display

muted vo

2018-04-29 Thread wayne coles
hello i have muted vo and the track pad commander must be turned off because i thought it was a three finger double tap but that does not seem to work so any help please -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concern

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
The BrailleMe sounds even more limited than the other displays we have been talking about. I wonder what these people were thinking. Here's info: http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/ Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Maria Reyes wrote: > > Another displa

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never gotten used to using it. It always seems like it either scrolls too fast, or I end up sitting there waiting for it to scroll. Maybe it'd work if you removed all hard returns so that all lines are of the same length, but

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Donna Goodin wrote: > You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never > gotten used to using it. It always seems like it either scrolls too fast, > or I end up sitting there waiting for it to scroll. The advantage of the Active Tactile Control in some HandyTech disp

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
I wish those devices had internal memory, but even so, I may check one out if I get to CSUN next year. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:20 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Donna Goodin wrote: >> You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never >>

Re: muted vo

2018-04-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It’s three finger double tap Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Apr 2018, at 8:13 pm, wayne coles wrote: > > hello i have muted vo and the track pad commander must be turned off because > i thought it was a three finger double tap but that does not seem to work so > any help please > > -- > The f

Re: muted vo

2018-04-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, TrackPad Commander needs to be enabled in order for that gesture to work. Hold down the VO keys (ctrl and Option) and twist two fingers on the TrackPad like you're turning up the volume knob of a radio, then try the three finger double-tap. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher Fort McMurra

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think somethings I have seen written elsewhere, that it did not work with iPhones or Macs. Only with a spec

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
the scrolling works great with iphone, and mac. On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think some

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I used my husband’s focus 80 a few years ago. It was actually kind of clunky. My fav is 40 cells, although I got used to using 32 when I used my braille sense plus for book reading. Now I just have my brailliant bi 40. the BSP is still here, but the charger is broken so I can’t get it charge

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Rebecca Sabo
Hi all Is their a cheaper braille display to buy anywhere ? Becky > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:27 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > This is actually a concern I have. It goes back to the time when Freedom > Scientific came to life and took over what, 3 companies, including Blazie? > But we do not ha

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Becky, Write me at kriegle...@gmail.com and I may be able to help you with your question. Les Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Sabo Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 6:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Hi all Is their a cheaper braille display to b

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
I am sorry, but I cannot believe that Earle would have ever said such a thing. I know Earle very well, and actually talked to him earlier today. We both live in the twin cities and have worked together on projects for many years. I also own a Active Braille which I have used on my computer at

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
David, please calm down. I said it was all from memory. So just get off your high horse. For once. I did look up the current information on the hymns site about the active braille etc. It’s very expensive for what it is. If you have the big bucks, go for it. If you’re like most of us, well you c

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
Sorry, but as an assistive technology specialist who has been in this field for over 30 years I have seen so many blind folks lead down the road to purchase a Braille product that was not what they really needed because people who didn't know what they were talking about gave them information th

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
Well, as a not assistive technology specialist, excuse me for posting. I will be on subscribing because of people like you. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 5:41 PM, David Tanner wrote: > > Sorry, but as an assistive technology specialist who has been in this field > for over 30 yea

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Rebecca Sabo wrote: > Hi all > Is their a cheaper braille display to buy anywhere ? The least expensive options are probably the Orbit Braille Reader from Orbit Research, and the BrailleMe (noted earlier in this discussion). They both use very new technologies unlike the piezoelectric mechanis

cost of Active Braille displays?

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, I'm curious. People have been talking about the Active line like they cost a small fortune. Anyone happen to know the pricing? Cheers, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running

RE: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
Well, all I can say is that I am sad that you would rather drop off a mailinglist than admit that your information was not correct, and be willing to admit that you were wrong. Obviously you operate more on what you want to believe about blindness products than on facts. That is really sad giv

RE: cost of Active Braille displays?

2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
These prices are close, but may not be exact list prices. Actileno - $4,000, Active Braille $6,500, Active Star $6,800. Yes, they are expensive, and not the right choice for everyone out there. I like my Active Braille, but my employer purchased it. Not every blind person has the opportunity

Re: cost of Active Braille displays?

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
OMG!!! That is seriously expensive. And for all that money, there is no internal memory? Just one thing I would correct. the Braille Edge has forty cells, and i believe comes in right around $4000. Also no internal memory, but about $2500 less than the Active Braille and $2800 less than the

Re: cost of Active Braille displays?

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
Check the Hims site for pricing. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm curious. People have been talking about the Active line like they cost a > small fortune. Anyone happen to know the pricing? > Cheers, > Donna > > -- > The followin

Re: cost of Active Braille displays?

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
the actilino is $2800 not $4,000 On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: OMG!!! That is seriously expensive. And for all that money, there is no internal memory? Just one thing I would correct. the Braille Edge has forty cells, and i believe comes in right around $4000. Also no

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