No, you have to insert a sim, even a blank one will work it's just to make the
connection it doesn't need to be live
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 6:49 AM
To: macvis
Hi Mark,
Thanks for this, I't has a good ring to it.
He's got a lot of points that make good sense, but will the powers listen to us?
Glad my bose bt headphones work great.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of M.
That is not a stupid question, the only stupid questions are the ones left
unasked. Especially on a list like this do not ever feel ashamed or uneasy
about asking a related question, we’re here to help. Anyone who picks on
someone inexperienced asking well formed questions like this is a troll
Wow, I did not know about this limitation. This in my opinion is weak sauce
(tm). Shouldn’t matter what carrier if any is installed.
I’ve got a pile of T-Mobile sims that will fit if the original poster needs one.
On 6/25/16, 3:20 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" wrote:
Alas, no. You need a SIM
Here’s a followup. It’s a rebuke to Daring Fireball’s typically “it’ll all be
fine; it’s just the new floppy drive, Apple knows (and does) best” piece
(linked to and referred to in the article):
https://medium.com/@stevestreza/john-gruber-misses-the-point-completely-about-lightning-headphones-45
Depends on the device but yes my experience is that Android does not need a SIM
present for initial setup. I can’t speak to all devices though there are so
many. I have see this on the Samsung S5 specifically.
Isn’t apple working on or recently just patented a software based SIM option
that’s
Ok two points here, very sad day that you have to edit another publication to
make it available here. And btw, you missed a word that will almost certainly
get the moderators panties twisted in to a neat little bunch.:) Even though
that word is totally acceptable on your BBC btw.
That being s
So wait, let me see if I get your point.
You want the powers to give in, include a head phone jack, you like the article
and you’re happy you have Bose bt headphones? Did you read the article? ☺
The poster wasn’t exactly supporting the Bluetooth position there. I’m not
trying to be snarky I
I think AppleSIM is presently a dual-use option on iPad only at the moment.
It’s a nice idea and apparently does help in certain cases where the
alternative is full-on international roaming charges (but still not quite as
cost-effective as buying local, obviously).
But really, yeah, it’s just
Sabahattin, I really like your style.:)
I’m glad you inject humor along with your well crafted points. Even when I
don’t agree with them I love reading them and in general we probably agree much
more than not. It’s fun to read your responses!
On 6/26/16, 6:29 AM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" wrot
Hi!
For me it doesn’t mean anything.
I am not worrid at all what ever happens.
We are not there yet and when we are then i have to deal with things as they
are.
One thing though is that i don’t want to drag around more equipment just
because it will give me better quality of the audio.
I want my
Hi. May be that aren’t signed up to Apple Music because not all artists use all
streaming services as a platform to reach their listeners! There are albums
that I can’t find on Apple Music and they are available on Googleplay Music.
> On 24 Jun 2016, at 22:39, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> I’m havi
Hi Scott,
I’m with you hear, with the exception of the point about DRM, all the other
points felt trivial to me. He talked about having different spec cords. Not for
nothing, people who own Apple products been dealing with that since the first
iPod came out using a firewire connection. lol. Som
Hi. I do VO J to jump to the message body and the same to move back into the
message thread but I don’t know how to send a message without going to the
toolbar so does anyone know how what the command is to send a message once it
is ready to be sent?
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:24, Kawal Gucukoglu
Easy as can be. When you are ready to send a message, just press CMD+shift+d.
Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> On Jun 26, 2016,
All,
I
m trying to complete an on-line course that says I must have Adobe Flash player
installed and working. I’m using an iMac 2014 running El Cap. I can’t get past
this point in the course without being able to use Flash.
Other parts of the course are totally inaccessible but this flash thi
Hello,
You can get Flash Player for Mac by typing in get.adobe.com/flashplayer in
Safari.
While it can be installed, VoiceOver can’t interact with Flash content sadly.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I
> m trying to complete an on-line
Chrome has flash built-inn, so you may have better luck.
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 6:37 AM Jeffrey Shockley
wrote:
> Hello,
> You can get Flash Player for Mac by typing in get.adobe.com/flashplayer
> in Safari.
> While it can be installed, VoiceOver can’t interact with Flash content
> sadly.
> Hop
I’m not against progress, but I’m still for a standard connector if we’re going
to replace the 3.5 mm jack. Same goal, different direction. Apple proprietary
for something so fundamental as headphones is user-hostile and stupid, but not
if we can move as one to an unfragmented, new market of a
Hi,
It sounds like you have found a string that crashes Voiceover. Try using
another voice to see if this solves the problem. If the crashing stops, go
back to Alex and advance through the strings one at a time until you reach the
problem string and then change the string to something else and
Yes. I even tried setting a hotspot on the PDF’s contents, which then
registered as inactive if I moved the VoiceOver focus outside the PDF content.
As someone who’s worked in software QA for years now, I can honestly say that
Adobe should be full of shame for letting that problem get past QA.
Believe it or not I know about it. Our counseling center tried to use it for a
couple of years. It was never accessible. They claimed that it was, but it was
not. I tried to use it on a Windows computer. They said it would not work at
all on Max. If I can answer any more specific questions feel
Thank you Nancy. I’ll be messing with it over the next month, I’ll definitely
take you up on your offer to most likely confirm my findings.
Best,
Brett
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Nancy Badger wrote:
>
> Believe it or not I know about it. Our counseling center tried to use it for
> a co
That’s not a showstopper for me. I simply select all the text in the PDF, copy,
and paste into a blank Textedit document. Doesn’t work? Then it’s PDFPen to the
rescue which, amongst other things, has the ability to OCR those dreaded
scanned documents into readable text.
> On 26 Jun 2016, at 06:4
Half a sec. Can you fill out forms with PDF Pen? I tried downloading a form
from the Social Security Administration and PDF Pen failed to recognize the
fields. Or, more correctly, VoiceOver failed to recognize that PDF Pen
recognized the fields.
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:03 PM, christopher hall
Hi,
I use PDFPenPro to fill out forms quite a bit. Try pressing tab to go through
the document and see how it goes. Of course, it totally depends on how good
the creator of the fillable pdf did at labelling. Most pdf making people don't
bother taking the time to label the fields and such, th
Or, if you have an iPhone, , forward it to your iPhone and use Voice Dream
Reader to read it.
Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: Chris Meredith
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe Reader DC
Yes. I even tried
If I install it, will it generally play the content? If you mean that
VoiceOver won't interact with it, I hope you mean that it is as it is in
windows, when using a screen reader, in that there are a lot of buttons and
controls that can't be accessed, but the material will play, most of the
ti
Ah—I can pretty much guarantee that the file won’t be properly labelled. I was
actually using the form SS-5 as a “known case”, where I knew things should work
as expected. The form I need to fill out is something for my 401(k) plan,
where the PDFs may not be adequately labeled.
If it makes a d
Hello,
Yes, Flash content will play. By Interact, I mean that VoiceOver will not see
the buttons and stuff within Flash content like Windows screen readers do
because the accessibility information is not presented to Mac like it is on
Windows. It’s Adobe’s fault. However, lots of things are movi
Well, sadly, this won’t help me as nothing will move, play or otherwise happen
on this particular web page. I may try it on Chrome and see what happens.
Thanks everyone for your input.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
Hi,
If all one is doing is reading the pdf, then there's Preview already on your
Mac that will read pdf's just fine. It doesn't handle columns as well as
PDFPenPro but for does a pretty good job on most.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 26, 2016, at 12:58, Arnold Schmidt
On one of the mac blindness mailing lists someone sent as message subject
such a string as a malicious prank. Until it was purged from the list the
solution was to use another voice, it was an alex centric problem.
It consisted of letter paris repeated over and over again. That might
provi
All this makes me very glad I'm an android user. Whether the demize of the 3.5
mm jack turns out to be a good thing long term or not, I myself am not ready to
take that step. I can't even really go for bluetooth headphones which I'd
really like to do because I need wired headphones for so many
Hi Jeanine,
As far as I know, yes, you can install flash on your mac. However, it’s not
accessible.
Hope you find a way to deal with the course..
Cait
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I
> m trying to complete an on-line course that says I must have Adobe F
Hey everyone,
I am thinking of canceling cable, because we just don’t use it much.
We just got Hulu, and that is working awesome.
What I want to know is, does Netflix work well, either on the computer or on
the iPhone?
Thanks,
Brandon
--
The following information is important for all members
Some members here may not go back far enough to the days of the many
choices we had for headphones. Wired, wired, wired, wired, and wired.
(smiles)
I really do not get this concern over a possible change in hardware
that no one has laid eyes on. But if it is true, its as good as carved
Exactly!! things change over time.
does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old cassettes?? How
about those huge 5 and a half inch floppy disks? How about when all the memory
you could get was something like 64 megs, and there really wasn’t any portable
storage??
yep, progres
Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with
every technology change. At this point in my life, I wish I had a dime for
every change and alteration in technology that people wined and complained and
raged against, including myself. Whatever happens, happens. A year
Hi John,
Agreed!
Change is coming whether anybody likes it or not, so find what works for you
and keep moving!
Talk soon
Chuck
On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:48 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with
> every technology change. At this point
Cait,
Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers!
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
Exactly!! things change over time.
does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old cas
Yeha, if there is an headphone 3.5 mm hole in there, does not mean you can’t
use the lightning port instead for headphones or what ever. But if it is gone
it is gone
Take care
> 26. jun. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev Scott Granados :
>
> Ok two points here, very sad day that you have to edit another
Netflix works awesome on the phone, the computer for what I've seen it works
fairly well, but I primarily use it on the phone. If you have an Apple TV, it
also works Super Bowl not both third and fourth generations. The final feature
of Netflix that I think may be beneficial to other blind indiv
I use NetFlix all the time on my IPhone, IPad, Nexus 6, mac, and Windows
machines. Also, I use it all the freaking time on my Apple TV 4. I can
simply say that it's probably one of the best experiences for watching
movies/TV shows that I've found. Further, the times I've called and spoke
to
Hi Brandon,
My husband and I ditched our cable last fall. We now watch either Netflix, or
content that we own. Netflix works great, both with our Apple TV and on my
iPhone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Brandon A. Olivares
> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I am thinking of canc
Brandon, One other thing that I really like about Netflix is that their staff
is all US based. At least as far as I can tell, they don't outsource I thing. I
have never called and got an accent unless it be a southerner or whatever.
Ben
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 15:20, Brandon A. Olivares
> wrot
Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to
read it.
I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the
two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice
Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macinto
Hi Hank,
What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to
purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding
windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the real questions
that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a bett
Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows.
First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried
the item chooser? That might help you navigate more easily. Just press
control-option-I. Navigate to the item you want, or type in the first few
letters of the n
I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every
time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander
gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know
how accessible Jaws is with Windows 10 touchscreen. I am wait
I have been curious about the Mac for quite a while. About a month after
buying this Vista computer in 2008, I listened to Mike Are ego's excellent
series of podcasts on BlindCoolTech about the Mac. If I had listened to them
before buying this computer, I would have bought a Mac then. Micros
To be fair to Jaws, it is only $60 a year if you keep up the SMA. The
professional version is more, I think about $90 a year.
Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Why
Well, instead of interaction, try just moving around with tab, shift-tab, and
arrow keys first. It works better than you might think. Second, I love the
accessibility, and the system-wide spell checking and dictionary functions.
Sent from my Mac.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
> On Jun 26, 2016
My primary reason for still using the Mac at this point is the frustration-free
robustness of the OS and screen reader (if you’re on the right release,
anyway). You really do get a lot in the package, especially if you also have
iOS, but system-wide spell-check is still one of my favourite feat
Arnold, everything is better about the Mac from speed to security to
performance to ease of use, everything is 100% better. Starting at the top.
First, voice over is much better. Unlike windows you have access to the entire
life cycle from initial setup to reinstall to upgrade to deep maint
It’s funny David, I just walked away from a job offer because it was in a
windows shop. I’m personally not willing to compromise my self and my work
quality to run with in a windows environment. Especially when there’s such
good interoperation between Mac and windows environments. I wish you
I completely agree with these assessments 100%.
let me start by saying this: the Mac is not for everyone. oh boy do I hear
people on this list complaining to me now! as an assistant technology
instructor, I have to say the honest truth however. And the honest truth is,
some people may do better
is this possible?
I would like to control the mac from across the room, especially to change
system preferences and parental control.
I can see how to view the screen but can’t figure out how as a voiceover user i
can in fact control the mac?
thanks for any ideas.
***
Michael Babcock
Consulting
Hi,
I believe that a few members on this list have used some third party remote
apps with varying success. Basically though, the Screen Sharing and other
similar services on your Mac will not pass through the VO sounds, so you are
limited in what's possible. Not impossible, but quite problema
So I’m running the public beta to be clear but I did run that version with no
problems. I get an occasional voice over reset but not a reboot. Before you
downgrade I would highly suggest installing a clean copy of the latest OS.
When you upgrade you frequently get issues that a clean install
Arnold, itunes on the Mac is far better. It never required scripts like the
old days of Windows and itunes and jfw, the interface matches everything else
on the mac so once you learn one application you can move cleanly in to another
and yes, the interaction with the iphone is better. You have
A-men brother!
I completely agree with you especially on the mediocre state of audio. I woke
up to this in a horrible way not that long ago and posted something to the list
about it. I tried to listen to some classical music recently, a piano
performance by Andre Watts and oh my God the audio
Donna, I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing but can’t quite get my head
around not having channels to turn to. I’m still a product of the old
television way of doing things. How about news or other live broadcasting? Do
you miss it? Do you still get it in other ways?
How about
At the risk of dating my self here, I remember when 8.25 inch floppies were the
standard and 64 megabytes, wow I remember when 64K was a big deal. (kilobytes)
I paid like 500 dollars for a 64K upgrade card to give me a whopping 128K of
memory, that I could only access in 64K blocks at a time a
Not to mention they have made me a lot of money in the market. Go Mr.
Haystings.:)
Seriously though, love netflix. Use it on the same selection devices that
others have mentioned here with Apple TV being my favorite.
On 6/26/16, 8:06 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
wrote:
I use NetFlix all
Yes, press enter and then close the window and continue on when done.
From: on behalf of Kawal Gucukoglu
Reply-To:
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 2:46 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Not all e-mail showing when I open a conversation.
OK Ray, will do as you suggest.
One ques
Good point, interoperability is key. IF it only works on Apple that’s not
nearly as good as a standard interface. I buy that argument. That’s something
the standards folks should be able to work out though.
Funny thing I was just thinking is I wonder if Apple will make the same
change
As always, great response, not sure I agree with it all but well done and
probably better presented than my arguments.
I do wonder about the privacy area. I know you generally have a very good beed
on the security side and privacy side. I’m interested that you still would be
attracted to and
I’m going to try Android again but my experiences did not mirror yours. I
ended up taking my Galaxy S5 to the local rod and gun club and blasting it with
a Remington Autoloader 308 and damn it felt good! That phone dropped my call
do to an unscheduled reboot during an interview one to many tim
Afraid to say E.T. but we’ve had computers for as long as humans have been on
the earth. (regardless of whether little green or grey men helped or not)
Whether it’s sun dials, the abacus, slide rule, the protractor, and on an on
we’ve had computing devices since the psychedelic mushrooms on the
Absolutely agreed, unlocked should mean unlocked to the network. It shouldn’t
mean you’re sort of unlocked, you need to have a SIM but otherwise you can use
the radio and phone as you want. That’s again weak sauce ™.
If it’s just a connection issue as someone mentioned then why can’t a softwar
Michael, you didn’t mention I don’t think the distance you want to cover.
Would a Bluetooth keyboard or wireless keyboard do the trick? You can hear VO
and work things wirelessly. Or is that not suitable?
From: on behalf of Michael Babcock
Reply-To:
Date: Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12
Michael
I use teamViewer with a friend that lives about an hour drive and phones me
with FaceTime. My friend does lots of very complicated to easy work. I just
launched screen sharing and my friend quit FaceTime since Screen Sharing has
Audio. I have a very sick Mac, so my friend had to do some
Tim:
thanks you gave me something to look into. I want the ability to change
internet policies, e.g. allow use on a site based on only times that i can
allow. I didn’t find a schedule blocking of web services options in the
parental control, settings, so will look for remote access in parental c
> Scott:
Thanks for that, that may very well work for what i’m looking to do.
Normally when something needs done i’m in the middle of a project, and what
needs done on the computer is a quick VO keystroke here or there. Or as stated
in a previous message, I need to modify parental control rules.
Angus:
thanks, i am very fond of using team viewer.
:)
One fun story about that, someone I knew needed help on his computer, and my
wife and I were at costco. He didn’t understand how to print that oh, so
important document… Calling me in a frantic need for help, my wife downloaded
team viewer a
Yep, for got about that!
Cait
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:55 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Cait,
> Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers!
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> Exactl
Hi,
quite frankly, for you, windows is better then the mac because you are familiar
with it and feel in your element.
I love my apple products and won’t go back to windows, but I started out with
apple products when I could see, so getting a mac and learning how to really
use it has been more o
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