Re: Steps when concerned about a security threat

2016-02-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
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2016-02-14 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, I'm very new to Twitter. I see that sometimes links to articles or files are posted in a tweet. But how do I activate them or copy them using Voiceover on my mac, iOS? What's the most accessible Twitter app on the iPhone? Many thanks, Andrew -- The following information is important f

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Tweetlist Pro is wonderful for I O S. As for the mac, use Syrinx, no, just kidding. Sorry, I couldn't resist. LOL! Being totally serious though, there is an app called Night owl, not joking around. The app was formerally called YoruFukurou. At least in Night Owl, when sitting on the tweet

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi Chris, Thanks for your suggestions. I have started using Twitter.app for mac but I don't seem to be able to activate links in a tweet, that's why I'm asking whether there is a trick to it. Thanks Andrew > On 14 Feb 2016, at 11:11, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Tweetlist Pro is w

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I too like the native twitter app for MacOs, only thing that i haven’t figured out as of yet is how to mute certain hash tags/users/tweets. Does anyone know how this is done in the native twitter app? /Krister > 14 feb. 2016 kl. 12:11 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland : > > Tweetlist Pro is wonder

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom
To activate a link in a tweet, do the following: When on the tweet with a link you want to follow, option+right arrow. This brings up a menu with some choices. You can go to a users profile, see the details of a tweet, (for nightowl users this is similar to conversation mode) and see the url of

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi, As far as activating links goes, what you do, is find the tweet with the link you want to click on in the table, and press Option Rightarrow on it. A menu will come up, and then, you arrow down to the link, and press Return. I learned this from an AppleVis podcast that was released recently

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2016-02-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
To verify a networked Time Machine backup, just open the Time Machine menu extra as usual (VO-MM and move left/right to select Time Machine, then press space), use VO-down to select Back Up Now, let up on the VO keys, and hold down the Option key on its own. The option changes to “Verify Backup

Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! for El Capitan?

2016-02-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
When I last looked, CCC could back up the "Recovery HD” partition, where SuperDuper could not. I don’t see this as a particularly big deal, since you generally already have a working Recovery HD when you do your restore, but it’s worth mentioning all the same. -- The following information is

Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! for El Capitan?

2016-02-14 Thread Mike Arrigo
Both programs will work, I use carbon copy cloner myself, works very well. > On Feb 13, 2016, at 12:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL > wrote: > > Hi List, > The subject says it all. > Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! for El Capitan? > Who out there has used either of these applications on El Capitan, and

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, Firstly, thank to you and Jeffrey for the tips on how to activate a link in a tweet. I think I did that quite by chance, and if I remember well, I pressed vo+spacebar on a tweet which gave me a dialog with menu button. vo+spacebar on that, you should see an option to mute a particular tw

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2016-02-14 Thread Alex Hall
Hey all, I'm wondering if there's an app that can show you one step of your recipe at a time on the Apple Watch? It seems like that'd be more convenient than using an iPhone or iPad. I'm imagining an app that shows you step one, then lets you either hit a button or do a two-finger swipe left to

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2016-02-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
If you get caught by the very long strings that kills Alex and aren’t using another synth or can’t switch to it, you can press Command+Space, type terminal, press enter. Press backspace and listen for the bell. Type “sudo shutdown -r now” and press enter, type your password, and press enter.

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my name is bill dengler On 2/14/2016 8:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > If you get caught by the very long strings that kills Alex and aren’t using > another synth or can’t switch to it, you can press Command+Space, type > terminal, press enter. Press backspace and listen for the bell. Typ

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2016-02-14 Thread Bill Dengler
Or sudo reboot should work as well… or just hold down the power button. Switched synths until this gets resolved. Bill > On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > If you get caught by the very long strings that kills Alex and aren’t using > another synth or can’t switch to it

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's partly why I suggested Night Owl, AKA, YoruFukurou. BTW, again, when I mentioned Syrinx, don't do it. I was kidding. that's a really old Twitter client, that probably doesn't even work anymore. I just wanted to get a small laugh. Seriously though, I think YoruFukurou is probably goi

Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Mail
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Re: Recipe apps for Apple Watch?

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
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Re: Recipe apps for Apple Watch?

2016-02-14 Thread Mail
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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Changing the subject line to better reflect. God I hope Mark deals with this jerk soon! Thank you for the tip Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:49 PM Subject: Re: If you get caught b

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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hunt uh! The last thing you wanna do is just hold in the power button. That's a real good way to cause file corruption. Don't do that unless it be a very last resort. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Bill Dengler" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, February 1

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2016-02-14 Thread Bill Dengler
I wouldn’t suggest it unless the terminal method fails, but OS X is surprisingly good at recovering from file corruption in most cases. You could also tap the power button which will (eventually) shut the machine down. Bill > On Feb 14, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > >

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Re: How to activate a link in a tweet?

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
How much do you all wanna bet this is Maheen Wickramasinghe going under an alias. Obviously, I can't prove this, but I have a very weird suspicion. Anyway, I'm done fuling the fire. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mail" To: Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 4:41 PM Subject: Re: H

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2016-02-14 Thread Bill Dengler
So… wait. First you want to impersonate me, then you want to kill me? Wow shaf. Just wow. Bill On Feb 14, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Mail wrote: > > i will kill u bill dengler > > On 2/14/2016 9:58 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: >> I wouldn’t suggest it unless the terminal method fails, but OS X is >> surpri

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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, but would tapping the power button cause a proper shutdown? Now, you got me curious. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Bill Dengler" To: Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 4:58 PM Subject: Re: I wouldn’t suggest it unless the terminal method fails, but OS X is surprisi

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Yes, since OS X will intercept the ACPI signal. Bill > On Feb 14, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > OK, but would tapping the power button cause a proper shutdown? Now, you got > me curious. Smile. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Bill Dengler" > To

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2016-02-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
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2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
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Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ray, I don't know if I'd go quite that far. What makes you think it's all of Googlegroups? I think there are some on this list who think it's Shaf. It wouldn't surprise me. Nor would it surprise me if it's Maheen going under a weird alias; you know how he likes to do that crud. Anyway... I

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Good point Chris. Still, what made me think it might be all of the Google groups is the tremendous frequency with which these offensive posts are being put up. Then again, considering the fact that I am on to other Google groups and this is not happening with them, you have a good point. After

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2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
ok, there seems to be some kind of malformed object, script or malicious webpage contained in the OP/s message. Every time I tried to read it, it would cause my screen reader (voiceover) to lock up (practically unheard of for OS X, but there it is) and would also cause my email client to crash.

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2016-02-14 Thread Bill Dengler
No, OP is sending strings in a deliberate attempt to crash the screen reader. Switch to a non-MacinTalk synthesizer. Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2016, at 17:11, Eric Oyen wrote: > > ok, > there seems to be some kind of malformed object, script or malicious webpage > contained in the

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2016-02-14 Thread Vaughn Brown
Mine kept hanging in mail everytime this sender was highlighted. Vaughn On 2/14/16, Bill Dengler wrote: > No, OP is sending strings in a deliberate attempt to crash the screen > reader. Switch to a non-MacinTalk synthesizer. > > Bill > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 14, 2016, at 17:11, Eric Oyen

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
hmmm. well, far be it from me to offer advice. However, I had to dig pretty deep into how filters work on apple mail in order to get this to work right. Basically, I found his originating IP address, eliminated the last octet (last digits after last period), placed a star in there and checked th

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2016-02-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
What voice are you using that seems to be crushing on you with this sort of script? At the moment, I'm using my iPhone, with the Aaron voice (the so-called me old US Siri voice) Sincerely, The Constantly barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent

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2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
thats what I thought it was. btw, it even crashed my braille sense U2 when I tried to read the message from there using the built-in client. So, I sent a bug report to Hims Notetakers letting them know of the issue. don't you just love it when malicious types deliberately try to make an already

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2016-02-14 Thread Gary
This is happening to me too on my iMac. I’ve had to hold my power button to shutdown and then restart it. My apple mail is fine as long as I don’t VO to the subject line or open the message. I’ve been going to the sender column and deleting the messages. What’s the ip of the sender to create

about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
if anyone out here is willing to, please package these scripts as text files (I will see if I can use textedit to pick them apart. I would very much like to see how this was done so I can file a report with apple's voiceover development team. I am not even going to attempt to view these messages

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2016-02-14 Thread mohammad suliman
Hi,The problem is with Alex TTS here on my iPhone. Repeating er 39 or 40 times is the string which causes this issue. Samantha don't have this problem. On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM -0800, "Vaughn Brown" wrote: Mine kept hanging in mail everytime this sender was highlighted. Vaugh

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2016-02-14 Thread Alex Hall
This appears to be a crash string for Alex (possibly other synths as well), similar to how certain misspellings of Wednesday can crash Eloquence (before it was patched). I'm using Ava on my Mac and things are working fine. Props to Voiceover on iOS, though: while this string kills VO and the ent

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Alex Hall
As far as anyone can tell, it's not a script or anything so complex. You just type "er" a bunch of times, and you eventually cause Alex to crash. On OS X, this brings VO down with it and a restart of the machine is required. On iOS, simply restarting VO is enough to fix it. > On Feb 14, 2016, at

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2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
I will have to dig it up (again). last crash wiped that filter (g) THis time, when I recreate it, I will save off the IP range in a text file. now I have to go through this again. grrr. I will get right back to you. Eric On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Gary wrote: > This is happening to me t

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
this almost sounds like a similar issue I get when I am trying to read a terminal window while it is compiling something. this begins to look a lot like a buffer overflow. Wonderful. Eric On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > As far as anyone can tell, it's not a script or anything s

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Be careful though, as this guy may have a dynamic IP, and this day with VPN's and such. And don't say, don't give him any ideas. Odds are, this individual probably already knows about this stuff. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Eric Oyen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm doing it on Windows, and it's not crashing. I'm not gonna say any more though about my setup than that, for security reasons. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Eric Oyen" To: "[MacVisionaries]" Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:42 PM Subject: about the recent crash scripts i

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
I doubt he has a large number of IP addresses at his disposal. To begin with, they would have to answer to a validated NX so far as sending mail is concerned. THis will limit his options a bit. Most ISP's these days won't even allow you to operate a mail server. Also, rather a lot of them also b

What the hell is going on?

2016-02-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
What the hell is going on, someone is sending e-mail to this list and the e-mails are crashing my Macs. I wish someone would sort all this off and get who ever it is off the list so we can get on with reading our mails and have some kind of peaceful life. Sorry, but I have spent the last half

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I didn't see a response yet from the mods but I checked the account of the user who posted all the junk and it is set to "not allowed to post" so I guess somebody got to it. Unfortunate that they were able to pollute the list for a few hours but it happens once in a while. Hope everyone can get

Re: What the hell is going on?

2016-02-14 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi! What is the I email? I'm having some issues in reading my emails whenever I flick right and left in ordr to read emails my Voiceover Crashes! Is this really causing the problem!! Not joking!! I'm just wondering!! Is this the problem!! I deleted my gmail account and added again on my iPhone

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well I reported all the posts I could find coming from the IP (which was in Canada) to Google abuse, as he’s relaying through Gmail. I don’t hold out much hope for any actual remedy because Google appears to take a fairly relaxed attitude to abuse complaints that don’t directly affect its custo

Re: What the hell is going on?

2016-02-14 Thread Abdullah Ibrahim Olivares
There aren’t anymore emails, but to delete the existing ones, just switch to another voice, like Samantha, and you’ll be able to delete them just fine. Abdullah > On Jum. I 5, 1437 AH, at 6:59 PM, Helga Schreiber > wrote: > > Hi! What is the I email? I'm having some issues in reading my email

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread gs
Excellent tack, Chris. Don't say too much and make sure to leave people guessing about your configuration. That'll handle the problem. Even better, stop responding to the tantalizing bait. Not possible, I understand. On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I'm doing it

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Terje Strømberg
The message i got in this thread with empty topic, says it is from you: Eric Oyen in the from field. It turned off my voice over. Interesting that this is possible. Second, it is very annoying. So far, the antivirus says i don’t have any virus. Take care 14. feb. 2016 kl. 23:51 skrev Eric Oye

Moderator Note - Thanks, and an Official Apology

2016-02-14 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, I am certainly glad that Chris and Mark are around as I just saw this craziness. Fortunately when I looked up the address of the sender to remove them from the list, either Chris or Mark had already gotten to him. So let me first thank them for this. Now, to all of you, please let me o

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2016-02-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey guys. Not only does the string effect the Mac voices like Alex, but it also totally crashed the Acapela voice I was using. I must have pretty bad luck, because I had to restart my Mac twice before all was back to normal. Lovely how other people like to screw with other people's machines, isn

Re: about the recent crash scripts

2016-02-14 Thread Eric Oyen
oh yeah. well, its not a virus string. I just got done doing a little reading in the crash dumps. Its a basic buffer overflow. What gets me is that it appears to operate across at least 2 platforms. THis means that the bug, itself, is in the voiceover speech engine. It also appears to happen acr

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Sabahattin, you got me curious. When I first joined this list, I was using a gmail account. The thing I'm curious about is that you said that the hacker was from Canada. I'm from Canada so do you know exactly where from Canada this hacker is? I abandoned that gmail account a few years ago and sw

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