Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Please pardon my ignorance here, but isn’t dots 7 and 8 also the way the cursor is represented in the PC world? You don’t have dots 7 and 8 across the whole line where the cursor is, do you? /Krister > 6 okt. 2015 kl. 03:07 skrev Devin Prater : > > Well, as I said, they could just do as the

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
maybe an alternative for Apple would be to compile the Brltty kit into VO and use it instead of their own braille? At least that would be an option if Apple feels they aren’t that good at Braille. /Krister > 6 okt. 2015 kl. 08:04 skrev Devin Prater : > > Can BRLTTY be compiled for the mac? > >

Re: Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-06 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Hello, I have one of these displays. A Windows PC is definitely required to update the firmware. Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 6 Oct 2015, at 3:39 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote: > > Hi, > I think she was talking about the human were brilliant. That display is only

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Hi Krister and all, Another thing I don’t like about braille support in OS X is not being able to separate the braille curser from the VoiceOver curser. In Windows one can view the braille curser independently of the JAWS curser or NVDA. With VoiceOver it moves in one big chunk. Yours tru

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! My whish is to have some sort of braille cursor that can navigate independently from the voiceover cursor. This should be navigated with the braille display. /A > On 05 Oct 2015, at 23:54, Devin Prater wrote: > > My biggest problem is that I cannot read formatting information, like italics

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes but its a bit tricky. I gave up on it as i didn’t get much help. /A > On 06 Oct 2015, at 08:04, Devin Prater wrote: > > Can BRLTTY be compiled for the mac? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 5, 2015, at 11:58 PM, Blee Blat wrote: >> >> I don't find dots 7 and 8 hard to read with text

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Anders, that’s part of being able to navigate braille independently as i was talking about earlier in this thread. /Krister > 6 okt. 2015 kl. 13:49 skrev Anders Holmberg : > > Hi! > My whish is to have some sort of braille cursor that can navigate > independently from the voiceover cursor. > Th

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Blee Blat
Yes, that's the biggest problem is no independent braille cursor and not enough customizations. Also that would fix the cursor routing issues as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread E.T.
This is exactly the kind of feedback we need. So far, the lack of independent cursor tracking is a major complaint. In respect to BRLTTY, I think we should leave that and just focus on encouraging Apple to improve what is already in place at least in this thread. So far we have the

Re: How do you open an attachment?

2015-10-06 Thread Marie Lyons
I did something intelligent without realizing it. I saved the attachment as a document and there it was, on the desktop! Marie > On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Jamie Pauls wrote: > > Let's assume that the attachment you want to open is a word document. Here is > what I do. One. Open the message

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread eileen . misrahi
As I use the app MBraille to compose this post, I'm disheartened to even attempt to use my Apex with my MacBook Air. Braille is such a part of my daily life in so many ways, except on my Mac. Are there basic braille command keystrokes for VO to look at before embarking on this journey? Thanks

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Scott Davert
Hi Eileen. Many of the iOS commands you have come to know will work great on OSX. here's a podcast which may also help you get started. http://applevis.com/podcast/episodes/using-braille-displays-mac Scott On 10/6/15, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: > As I use the app MBraille to compose this po

Podcast order in iTunes

2015-10-06 Thread Marshall Scott
Hi Folks, Is it possible to change the order of Podcasts in iTunes in Yosemite? I'd like to move the Recent Updates item from the top of the list of podcasts to the bottom of the list. I tried using Drag and Drop with Voiceover but it didn't work. Thanks, Marshall -- You received this mess

Bying a new computer.

2015-10-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Am about to spend money on a new Mac. I have been comparing macs on app store. First i really wanted a macbook Air but the i wanted my 11 inch with 8 gb ram and 512 flash disk. And that will cost me more than i can afford. I don’t know the differences in the processor types. I mean is 2.7 much

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Thats the problem i don’t like about the braille support on the mac. Thats why i don’t use any braille display on the mac right now. /A > On 06 Oct 2015, at 08:50, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > My problem is, i think, a typical european problem as i understand it. > I haven’t worked a lot

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Thats true mate. I really don’t like that. /A > On 06 Oct 2015, at 09:22, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > Please pardon my ignorance here, but isn’t dots 7 and 8 also the way the > cursor is represented in the PC world? You don’t have dots 7 and 8 across the > whole line where the cursor

Re: Bying a new computer.

2015-10-06 Thread Alex Hall
8GB of ram is more than enough, I imagine, especially on a device with a solid-state drive. A Mini is a fine machine, but remember that it's not portable and won't include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, or microphone. > On Oct 6, 2015, at 15:01, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Am about to spend

Re: Bying a new computer.

2015-10-06 Thread erik burggraaf
Anders, I think the 1.6 ghz processer is a quadcore which makes it more expensive and also as it's a laptop processer with four cores, it will have more l2 cash and be engineered to run a little cooler than the desktop processer in the mini. The 2.7 ghz processer in the mini is a duel core fro

Re: Bying a new computer.

2015-10-06 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Just a slight correction. MacBook Airs don't come with a retina display. You must be thinking of the 12-inch MacBook. Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 7 Oct 2015, at 6:47 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >

How to change what is in the rota

2015-10-06 Thread Agent086b
Hello all, how can I change what items a shown in the rota after pressing VO + U? I know how to do this with the trackpad, sometimes in Safari the trackpad is unreliable. Thanks for any help. Max. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" gro

Re: How to change what is in the rota

2015-10-06 Thread David Griffith
Simply use left or right cursor keys after pressing VO U. David Griffith > On 6 Oct 2015, at 22:04, Agent086b wrote: > > Hello all, > how can I change what items a shown in the rota after pressing VO + U? I know > how to do this with the trackpad, sometimes in Safari the trackpad is > unreliab

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread E.T.
Anders, This is why I started this discussion. Its agreed that braille support in OS X is lacking so there is no need to reiterate that. Instead, what is needed here are specifics so some of us can test and then post feedback to Apple. Its not enough to tell them "I have heard that this

Re: 10.11 and braille

2015-10-06 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
There are quite a number of shortcomings, actually, but I’m going to concentrate on three which are fundamental and very obvious if you are a habitual braille user on other platforms. In general my bar for braille support is: you can use it with speech off, or you don’t have braille support.

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Of course reading with dots 7 and/or 8 is harder, but if well implemented that’s actually a good thing; for example, BRLTTY uses those dots to indicate capitalisation and attribute, respectively, with both for a system cursor (one cell). OS X on the other hand has exactly one caret style, a bli

Re: Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-06 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Out of curiosity, would a VM do it and which OS is the minimum required? I am quite interested in a Brailliant display myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: Braille Support in OS X

2015-10-06 Thread Scott Granados
Hey Scott, thanks for posting this resource. I’m going to try to work with braille again. Might be worth a shot. I keep hearing about braille TTY as well which might be worth a shot in a VM. Thanks for the podcast pointer. > On Oct 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > > Hi Eileen. > M

Re: Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-06 Thread Matthew Dierckens
When I used a VM, I was able to update my Brailliant display. I had both a windows XP VM and a windows 7, and both updated the display fine. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer U.S. number: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.die

A Quick Tip for Those Using The Native El Capitan Mail Application, Getting VO to Announce The Total Number of Messages in a Particular Mailbox

2015-10-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello, You know, sometimes, it's helpful to return to the basics. As some of you may know, I use the native OS X El Capitan Mail application via Standard view, complete with the Preview pane being displayed. Since using El Capitan, I have since wanted to be able to have VoiceOver not only an

adium setting up accounts

2015-10-06 Thread Singing Sparrow
I am having trouble setting up an account in Adium. I have a yahoo account i want to set up in adium but when i try setting it up nothing happens. Do i need the full yahoo email id or just the first part? also what version truely supports yahoo messenger? Can anyone help? -- You received this m