HI Ricardo,
Have you actually used bluetooth headsets with VoiceOver like this successfully
or are you just talking in theory at the moment?
If this worked, it would be some improvement at least, but not a complete
solution. One of the reasons I want a bluetooth headset is so I can hear
VoiceO
Yep, and SuperDuper is completely accessible.
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I'm buying the headset next week and will try with my I Mac. I will then report
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On 7 Jun 2013, at 10:59 AM, Nicholas Parsons
wrote:
> HI Ricardo,
>
> Have you actually used bluetooth headsets with VoiceOver like this
> successfully or are you just talking in theory at the momen
Open the photo viewer and make sure you are in the list of all photos, not just
a single one. Hit the edit button, double tap all the images you want to send,
then double tap the share button at the bottom of the screen, then select
email. That should work.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Jim Porti
Hi,
I've got a whole lot of Kindle book samples. I sent them from the Amazon/Kindle
website on Safari on my Mac to my iPhone. I can see all the books on the home
screen on the device tab. However, when I tap on a book, nothing happens. The
book doesn't open and doesn't start downloading. Well,
Hey Alex,
this sounds really cool. I'll definitely send them an email.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Hi all,
> Donna's post about the Nest thermostat made me realize that August might have
> the same problems.
>
> The August Smartlock (www.august.com) is a $200
Hi Mike,
I was just reading a Kindle book on my iPhone and realised that you can get the
print page number.
Just double tap to bring up the menu. Then tap near the bottom of the screen
and/or swipe right to the last element on the screen. It gives you a
percentage, then the print page number,
Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty
pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of experiences
available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on earth do we need a
special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, rather than expe
I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be interested in
testing your client as well.
-Greg
On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> tktpianostud...@gmail.com
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Okay, this is a problem I've been having for a while, but it's so weird and
difficult to describe I've avoided posting on here about it. But it's really
annoying me now and I want to get to the bottom of it. I haven't yet contacted
Apple Care or accessibil...@apple.com because I want to better u
I wonder if such a silly thing will ever get off the ground?
I know of a lot of blind people as well as a lot of sighted people who don't
necessarily want or need the tremendous power and flexibility provided by the
iPhone and Android phones, but this doesn't seem like it will fit that niche!
Yo
I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty
> pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of
> experiences available to the sighted on any
Just verified. I have an OSX 10.7 desktop and an OSX 10.8 laptop. Under
the context menu on OSX 10.8 is Share->Airdrop and on the OSX 10.7
machine there is no Share option. So for now Airdrop is kinda limited.
CB
On 6/6/13 7:02 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Hi all,
I finally called Apple Accessibility
Hi all,
You know, I remember watching many of you who posted to this list about the in
terminal mail busy message. I've been using a Mac since 2009, and until a
couple of months ago, had never seen this problem. All I can say, is wow, I so
feel your pain. It is so incredibly annoying, I thin
When I read your subject line, just for a second, I thought my email was busy!
LOL
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> You know, I remember
First, try erasing both apps, if you have not already done so. I'm wondering
if, somehow or other, the label for the field changed when you were logged out
of the apps due to inactivity, so vo is now grabbing the only label (or maybe
first label, or label of the element in the same position), wh
hello,
I would be interested in testing this as well, as i have played muds
for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
mac.
thanks
Mauricio
On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens wrote:
> I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be interested
> in testing your cl
Do you have these images and videos in iPhoto? If so I think you can put
them in a folder and play that as a slideshow.
CB
On 6/6/13 8:19 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
I actually was a little curious about that myself. I wanted to do a slide show
for Hannah and let her look at all her pictures and
We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is
provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
Original message:
Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems
pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full
Oops, sorry! :)
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
> When I read your subject line, just for a second, I thought my email was
> busy! LOL
>
>
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
> Sent from my Mac Book Pro
> richr...@gmail.com
>
> On
Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those
phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it
possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping the
visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods
I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it from
this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because somehow
you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, if we dialed
611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our i
That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore accessibility is a
terrible thing!
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> Not just
That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we
wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could
still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help,
without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be
Hi all, lately whenever I try to visit MacVisionaries or ViPhone via Safari,
something is going nutso. Voiceover repeats html over & over, then eventually
google wants me to solve an image to get any access to the site.
Any suggestions here?
Maybe I'll run over and try chrome.
Traci
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This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other carriers
yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping up. I
honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid scheme
program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out t
Yep, I agree 100%. this approach sends the wrong message to the "mainstream"
world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to make their products
accessible to us. And also enables disabled people to say they can't fully
participate in things because they have to have all these specia
But preference in this case doesn't justify the potential loss for the rest of
us who don't want to take the easy way out. also, I don't buy the preference
argument in situations like this. If all my life everyone has always waited on
me and I've never been expected to learn to do anything for
I decided to read this intire thread before responding. Frankly, I'm fullly
with Christine on this one for sure. Special carrier for the blind? Oh
please!! I hardly think that's necessary at all. Seperate ain't equal.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blin
Quite correct I'd say. It seems like what's happening here is that most of us
seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time. What's
wrong with putting out a little effort to get what you want or need?
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the bl
I do not understand how any blind person would first such a service. Jimmy,
it's the difference between having a phone bill just for a blind person, or
having an iPhone, that everybody else has. Personally, I like the ability to go
over and turn my girlfriend's iPhone alarm off using voice over.
Especially when the pay-off for that effort is so huge.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Quite correct I'd say. It seems like what's happening here is that most of
> us seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time.
> What's wrong with put
Hey guys, I have a question and I sent this to both the Vi-Phone list and the
Mac Visionaries list because I'm curious. I am strongly considering doing a
blog, and wondered where I would start, which sites or spots are accessible,
and hbow intensive is it to get started. Just curious. I'm not on
Hello Timothy,
There are several options. You can try a free one such as through Wordpress. If
you want more control, though, you can get web space through a web host, where
you would install the blog software and have full control of how it looks, what
features it has, etc. Most hosts have one
I am not, I repeat I am not in favor of a special carrier dedicated to people
who happen to be blind. However, having spent many years dealing with people
from all walks of life with varying degrees of technological savvy, I do wish a
mainstream carrier would bring forth a relatively simple phon
I recommend WordPress and even more highly recommend using WordPress with Mars
Edit, the blog editor app for Mac. It makes things really easy and accessible.
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Richard, I agree one hundred percent with you on this -- but as you say, this
is true, and there should be simple technology available, for people both
sighted and blind, from all mainstream carriers. Any benefit from something
like Odin Mobile must be balanced against its potential for harm, a
Hi Richard,
But what you're proposing is very different from the special phone, special
carrier thing. *Everybody, sighted or blind, should have the right to choose
the type of phone they want, and of course there are blind individuals who
would not choose a smart phone, just as there are sigh
Thanks, Alex, for your help.
I just tried deleting the apps. Problem still the same.
I'm a little reluctant to reset the settings. Don't really like the thought of
having to set everything up again. Would this include Mail, Contacts and
Calendars? If it didn't fix the problem, would I be able t
True! And the first line of my message clearly states that I am not in favor of
such a carrier!
However, assuming that high tech is for everyone is a somewhat insular and
elitist attitude and not helpful for those who desire simplicity.
I want everyone, blind or sighted to be able to decide what
Insofar as I am not a great fan of role models or examples, being a horrible
one myself, I would merely point out that such a service Woodset the way for
other companies to fobbed off their accessibility requirements on to such
dedicated services. It would possibly lead to a degradation in overa
All that I am trying to say, is that if they want to try to do this company,
and experiment with how well there is a response to their services, then that
is up to them. It is up to the consumer, or us, that determines whether or not
this is going to be a successful business venture or not.
Mic
Agreed. And they're actually using t-mobile's network, they don't have
their own.
Original message:
Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier
providing those phones. Such things make equality and equity harder
for us; it makes it possible for companies to say, "Well, ther
But, if the user learns about their device and how it works, they
should know how to reenable speech if it gets disabled.
Original message:
I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it
from this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone,
because somehow y
Absolutely. Special devices are not the answer. The answer is making
the main stream products accessible, we should not have to pay more or
use other devices to access the same things sighted people do.
Original message:
That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore
accessibility
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Timothy Emmons wrote:
> Hey guys, I have a question and I sent this to both the Vi-Phone list and the
> Mac Visionaries list because I'm curious. I am strongly c
I've decided to hime in as well. I honestly can't see the point of a carrier
for the blind. Firstly, it would go out of business with great rapidity due to
the fact that the vlid population is small. Seconly, should we be more
alienated than we already are? No, I say.
On 2013-06-07, at 9:51 AM,
I must entirely agree and I have an example to site. I used to use a Braille
translation program that included a word processor As a result, I didn't know
how to use main steam programs because I wasn't informed about main stream
programs.
On 2013-06-07, at 9:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> But
I know nothing abut this carrier nor these phones but I think it's pointless in
the extreme. I wouldn't want it anyway since I'm Canadian and it would probably
cater to US residents anyway.
On 2013-06-07, at 8:06 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
> donna
> On J
I'm taking a look here now. Thanks for the direction guys, as soon as I decide
to throw one up there and get started I'll let everyone know how to take a look
if you like. I was a big twitter and facebook nut for awhile but I sort of got
disenfranchised with both of them for different reasons an
Wait! Not so fast here.
Some tips that will make reseting much less of a pain.
1. First, back everything you can from your Iphone in to Icloud. Do this off
the main settings window.
2. Now, reset your phone. During the reset process, you will be offered the
option of setting your phone
>
> Hello everyone! I think blind people need to start complaining about what
> they dollhouse and be grateful for what they do house! Every guys to faults
> in technology not everyone is so happy with technology! And everyone can
> afford a droid or an iPhone! But it was about six years a girl
Hello everyone! I have to agree with Christine I don't think that you need a
special phone Carrie are in order to have an iPhone that's assessable for blind
people who are not TechNet technologically savvy
Sent from my iPhone
On 07/06/2013, at 14:13, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>
Hello everyone! To add to what I just said I think that through the winds later
night technology Saudi with smartphones such as the droid in the iPhone! Maybe
there should be a phone where they have the same features that they're kind of
water down little bit! But understand every time there's a
Quite so. This is, esentially, a third party sale, unless I'm very much
mistaken.
And, as for simple phones, I believe that the Gitterbug is still available.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a ve
Well, Mike, if the response of this list is any indication, that third party
effort will faulter very soon: that is, assuming it even gets off the ground.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very p
> Hello everyone! I start the blind community? Wanted to be you call! In not
> separate! On all things: every guys to technology in regards to it would
> charts for equal pay every guys that you caught education equal to
> transportation etc I also decide that they wanted everything to be
> acc
In the spirit of obviously piling on, I agree with you Kerri. Peas in a pod
ay; or huh?
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:05 PM, K
Well, but I don't think any of us are making that assumption. What we're
saying--or at least what I'm saying--is don't relegate us to substandard,
expensive, proprietary technology, and don't give mainstream companies an
excuse to do that for me by assuming that because these "special" options
Hi,
Finally someone who sees this my way.
Christine, i couldn't have said it better myself. The more specialty things we
get or ask for, the harder it gets for someone who uses say an I-device to
claim that it works very well for blind and visually impaired persons. I've had
it that when i have
Yes, but the settings that are cuasing the problem will get resored right along
with everything else. Resetting settings is not something I've done before, so
I don't know if it wipes out mail, calendars, and the rest. Still, calendars,
contacts, reminders, and all that (once set to iCloud) shou
But the Jitterbug is not really accessible.
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Quite so. This is, esentially, a third party sale, unless I'm very much
>
Yes, the settings you've saved in the cloud will in fact restore to your phone
if you set it up under your name when you have the choice of setting it up as a
new phone or under your name.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Consta
Maybe it's something printer-specific. On my machine (OSX 10.8) there is
a "Two-Sided" checkbox just after the Copies number input.
CB
On 5/24/13 1:47 AM, Agent086b wrote:
Thanks, as I say Vo does not read that duplex option. I would not have found it
except for my sited wife.
Thanks again.
M
Oh, Krister, don't get me started on this or I'll go on a rant and never get
off. I'll suffice to say that it's happened to me too, and Oh it irks me. The
only reason I'm skillful is because I've worked at it. If you don't want to
work at it that's fine, but then just own it.
Donna
On Jun 7,
In your message, you say, in part,
"other blind folks have said "Hush you're not representative" meaning
i'm too skillful".
What? Too skillful? That blows my mind. That makes me think that
there are too many blind people who are now also becoming low information
people and ex
Right, that's my concern. If the problem is somewhere in the settings, then it
will be restored, so the whole process just puts the problem right back as
though it never left.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Yes, the settings you've saved in the cloud will in fact restore to y
Yes, exactly. I already have reset and restored and the problem was restored
along with the settings. Alex's suggestion of resetting the settings and not
restoring might solve the problem. My concern is if it doesn't for some reason
solve the problem I will want all my settings back lol. I could
Ray, there's a lot of that attitude out there. I see this a lot with students.
I run into way too many disabled students who think that the world should
cater to them because they have a disability.
Best,
Donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> In your message, you say, in par
Well, the other side of that is that if one doesn't try, how will one know?
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Hall wrote
It rarely happens to me
Sent from my iPod
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Oops, sorry! :)
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
>
>> When I read your subject line, just for a second, I thought my email was
>> busy! LOL
>>
>>
>> You can have an off day, but
Greetings,
Anyone have an easy method to move a mailbox from On My Mac to iCloud or Gmail
from within the Mail App? I will be switching from a Mini as my primary system
to a Macbook, and wish to store emails in the cloud. As I use several different
accounts for work and the numerous other need
It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
Sent from my iPod
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida
wrote:
> hello,
>
> I would be interested in testing this as well, as i have played muds
> for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for
Happily it hasn't happened since I upgraded to 10.84 this morning. Hoping that
may have solved the problem.
Fingers crossed,
Donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> It rarely happens to me
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>> Oops,
Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be
integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything
completely accessible before that can happen
On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> It'd b good if we could import the scripts for al
I can't wait to update my Mac in two weeks when I get home.
Sent from my iPod
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Happily it hasn't happened since I upgraded to 10.84 this morning. Hoping
> that may have solved the problem.
> Fingers crossed,
> Donna
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:59 P
That will be amazing! Will the sound packs be available too?
Sent from my iPod
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
> Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be
> integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything
> completel
MSP MSDP MCCP GMCP and ZMP will all be supported (eventually) … so short answer
is yes sound packs will be available.
The client will also be available on IOS in the future (it'll be accessible
there as well).
As of this moment my client is a little over 10,000 lines of code. creating all
the
Yes, you can do that easily, I forgot about iTunes.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons
wrote:
> Yes, exactly. I already have reset and restored and the problem was restored
> along with the settings. Alex's suggestion of resetting the settings and not
> restoring might solve the prob
Sure, you can just acativate Voice Over via ITunes if you must: but, don't
need to. When you reset your phone, just quickly tap the home button three
times the instant you feel it vibrate. But, of course, you knew that didn't
you?
Just checking.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with ful
Media file conversion is a common topic. No experience at all with this,
there is a mac version and download here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040617/review-convert-almost-any-entertainment-file-to-another-format-with-free-adapter.html#tk.rss_all
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Yes, the cloud sounds best. I think you can just navigate to the mailbox in
your mailbox list, go to the menu bar, message, move to, and choose your
IMAP/cloud account. Once you've done this you probably need to wait a bit to
let Mail make the move, otherwise you might lose messages. You can che
Ray,
We were talking about simply resetting the iPHone's settings, not all the data.
When you just reset the settings you don't go through that set up process
again. In fact, now I think of it I'm not even sure you lose VoiceOver when
doing this. I'm pretty sure I've done it before for someone e
is there an app that can read menus and papers?
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Usual first steps delete the app from memory in app switcher, restart your
phone and reopen the app. If no luck with current samples try deleting a
couple, re send them to your iDevice and if they open and original samples
don't, rince and replete with the other samples. If none of this works
Hello Scott,
Are you talking about an app for the Mac or for an iOS device?
Janet Ingber
On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
> is there an app that can read menus and papers?
>
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Hi,
If you use the iMap protocol for your GMail account, you can share mailboxes,
messages and such between machines. As long as you've got both machines set to
use GMail iMap servers, all messages you delete from one machine are also
deleted from the other, Messages you move to specific mail
That will be amazing, as the "mud rammer" client doesn't seem to allow the
adding of additional MUD's.
Sent from my iPod
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
> MSP MSDP MCCP GMCP and ZMP will all be supported (eventually) … so short
> answer is yes sound packs will be available.
Ok, glad I'm not the only one who thought the female voices weren't that great
lol. I tried those years ago, and can't remember what the name of the female
voice one was, but that was the only one that the progra m came with that spoke
English, as well as one called Frank, that was in French, a
Yeah, I just can't figure out how to view them as a slideshow; I thought
selecting all of them then opening them would do it, but that doesn't seem to
do it.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Do you have these images and videos in iPhoto? If so I think you can put them
> in a f
I accidentally pressed a command keys which created a screen shut in my
MacBook.
Now when I turn it on, voiceover says, "portable network graphics image",
and I just couldn't find a way to delete it
Any help on what to do to delete it please?
Thank you.
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This list is very helpful, I don't know what to do without it!
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It's probably on your desktop. Just do a command-backspace whe
You got that y'all and as for what the previous poster said, over skilled? Now
I've heard it all.
On 2013-06-07, at 11:35 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> In the spirit of obviously piling on, I agree with you Kerri. Peas in a pod
> ay; or huh?
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full a
I predict, it will not even rise an inch.
On 2013-06-07, at 11:33 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Well, Mike, if the response of this list is any indication, that third party
> effort will faulter very soon: that is, assuming it even gets off the ground.
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer wi
Though I never saw nonetheless used a jitterbug (I don't think we have them
here) this entire simple phone venture is one thing, the separate vendor for
the blind, quite a load of rubbish.
On 2013-06-07, at 11:32 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Quite so. This is, esentially, a third party sale, unle
This makes sense but wouldn't it be ore advantageous to have an accessibility
department rather than an entirely separate carrier?
On 2013-06-07, at 9:19 AM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager,
Commtech LLC" wrote:
> I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look a
Not necessarily, Mike. I one time lost speech when I was still fairly new to
the iPhone. I connected it to the computer, found out that voiceOver was
enabled, I performed a rest, all to no avail. It turned out that I needed to
upgrade to the latest version of IOS, which I didn't know you could d
Please do get on a rant, mind if I join you? Too skilled? I've heard this
myself and I have to say, I'm damn proud of it.
On 2013-06-07, at 12:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Oh, Krister, don't get me started on this or I'll go on a rant and never get
> off. I'll suffice to say that it's happened
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